Feb 24 2007

Time to make trains safer

Published by John Redwood at 8:39 am under Blog

How many more people have to die or be injured, before the government does the obvious and brings train safety closer to road safety? I called for action following the tragic crash in my constituency at Ufton Nervet. Still there has been no urgency to learn the lessons.

There should be an immediate requirement that all luggage on a train is secured behind luggage doors or nets, just as it is on an aircraft. Anyone sensible puts heavy luggage in the self contained boot of a car to avoid it injuring

9 Responses to “Time to make trains safer”

  1. Kiton 24 Feb 2007 at 10:41 am

    How about stop wasting billions on the rail network? If it did not exist could anyone justify building it now? No.
    When Ford’s Model-T cars started rolling off the new fangled production lines the rail network became obsolete.
    It is time we scapped the intercity railways and replaced them with motorways. Less congestion and the government makes money! Sounds like a great deal to me.

  2. Neil Craigon 24 Feb 2007 at 1:53 pm

    “How many more people have to die or be injured, before the government does the obvious and brings train safety closer to road safety?”

    The first time I have 100% disagreed with you. Trains are MUCH safer than cars. A moving British train is one of the safest places on Earth. The statistics prove this beyond question. The difference is (A) when they happen they tend to kill more people because your average train has more people in it (B) humans are paradoxicly more concerned about risks they don’t control & we are thus much more blase about driving while tired than about our driver being tired (C) partly because train crashes are so rare they make headlines - in the same way if you die of MRSA in hosptial mobody notices but ebola will get you a headline.

    About 70 people a week die on the roads. Let us be glad that train safety is not more closely in line with this. You should look behind the headlines here. It has been statisticly proven that increasing train safety in expensive ways costs lives because the increased cost puts people on the roads.

  3. Londontoryon 24 Feb 2007 at 2:52 pm

    That’s all very well Kit, but shouldn’t we be trying to reduce journey times? You can’t seriously suggest that any motorway would be safely negotiated at 125mph let alone the 180mph which TGVs achieve?

  4. Tom Ainsworthon 25 Feb 2007 at 1:44 am

    Rail is one of the only means of transport that isn’t rendered unbearably tedious by health and safety obsessiveness. While the measures you suggest probably wouldn’t be too annoying, I tend to think it’s the wrong approach. It shouldn’t be too hard to make sure there are no crashes on what is basically a one-dimensional transport system. They should concentrate on maintaining the track and erradicating the possibility of human error (with modern computing methods I think it’s a bit of a failure that there’s a need for drivers at all). I can understand how visiting the site of a crash would be a traumatic experience, but we should remember they’re still very rare and, as you note, it seems in this case the safety measures worked pretty well.

  5. Alieon 25 Feb 2007 at 2:43 am

    Why can’t we at last, follow the example of countries like Germany and improve the general efficiency, speed AND safety of trains. Nothing much has improved here in the last one hundred years in terms of any of these things.

    Kit, what a ghastly idea. Why cover a beautiful country in concrete?

  6. JDon 25 Feb 2007 at 12:16 pm

    Any suggestions that may help improve rail safety at reasonable cost are to be welcomed. However, any article on rail safety should surely start with the fundamental fact that railways are already substantially safer than our roads.

    Because rail crashes are, by their nature, rare and spectacular, there is a tendency for them to be sensationalised. This is dangerous because someone that is put off rail travel and chooses to travel by road instead is exposing themselves to greater risk.

  7. Davidon 25 Feb 2007 at 3:16 pm

    I am a big supporter of the railways, which are statistically far safer than the roads. Your suggestions are very sensible however. In the past, luggage was held in wire cages over the seats, why it isn’t today I have no idea. I’m not sure about the seatbelts however, as fast escape is vital sometimes.

  8. Anthonyon 27 Feb 2007 at 12:14 am

    I am normally a great admirer of John’s writings and analysis. This is why I hope an assistant and not Mr Redwood himself penned this piece.

    Following the Ufton Nervet accident the Rail Safety and Standards Board commissioned a study by AEA rail into the usage of belts on trains.

    Conclusion, point 1:

  9. Nelon 20 Oct 2007 at 6:46 pm

    If you above who believe that our trains are safe, then please attend the inquest currently on regarding the Ufton Nervet level crossing tragedy. Although you have already missed the devastating details into why it happened. I lost two family members and all I ask is as the country who inveted trains why can’t we have a yearly MOT which is as highly scrutinized test making sure car safety standards are met by DVLA for train vehicles; as yes they do carry more passengers. They also travel alot faster than cars. Whereas a 5k boat on our canals has a bridge over it, why are we still using old cattle level crossings where trains running at over 100mph are passing!

    Reply: I have lobbied the government concerning the need for luggage restraint in carriages, seat belts and replacement of level crossings with bridges and underpasses where possible.

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