http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/03/20/this-house-says-thank-god-for-brussels-the-50th-birthday-eu-debate/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Wed, 19 Nov 2008 23:32:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/03/20/this-house-says-thank-god-for-brussels-the-50th-birthday-eu-debate/#comment-1299 Chris Wright Mon, 26 Mar 2007 18:38:25 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=166#comment-1299 John, I've always thought the claim that the EU somehow guaranteed peace in Europe to be completely bizarre. Even if it were a solution - doubtful - then it would be a solution for a problem that never existed in the first place. I would put my faith in democracy to maintain peace. Off-hand, I can't think of a single real shooting war between two genuine democracies. And the tragedy is that, slowly but surely, the EU is destroying our democracy (with a bit of help from Blair). I see that even Lord Carrington does not like the way the EU meddles with our own affairs. All I can say is that I look forward to our own Independence Day, when we can finally get out of the wretched thing. Chris Wright John,
I’ve always thought the claim that the EU somehow guaranteed peace in Europe to be completely bizarre. Even if it were a solution - doubtful - then it would be a solution for a problem that never existed in the first place.
I would put my faith in democracy to maintain peace. Off-hand, I can’t think of a single real shooting war between two genuine democracies. And the tragedy is that, slowly but surely, the EU is destroying our democracy (with a bit of help from Blair).
I see that even Lord Carrington does not like the way the EU meddles with our own affairs. All I can say is that I look forward to our own Independence Day, when we can finally get out of the wretched thing.
Chris Wright

]]> http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/03/20/this-house-says-thank-god-for-brussels-the-50th-birthday-eu-debate/#comment-1261 Neil Craig Sat, 24 Mar 2007 16:20:59 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=166#comment-1261 I think things are changing - the argument against is being decisively won. Check comments online, not merely in the blogsphere but on online newspapers (ir as Jihn says elsewhere on Any Questions). The net is allowing people to check things for themselves instead of relying on the MSM & this is allowing a lot of thinking the previously unthinkable. I think things are changing - the argument against is being decisively won. Check comments online, not merely in the blogsphere but on online newspapers (ir as Jihn says elsewhere on Any Questions). The net is allowing people to check things for themselves instead of relying on the MSM & this is allowing a lot of thinking the previously unthinkable.

]]> http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/03/20/this-house-says-thank-god-for-brussels-the-50th-birthday-eu-debate/#comment-1193 Brian Tomkinson Tue, 20 Mar 2007 10:32:01 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=166#comment-1193 Nothing much has changed. The arrogance and undemocratic attitudes of the Europhiles still prevails but with greater intensity, despite all the arguments. But when did they ever allow the facts to stand in the way of their dictatorial vision for a United States of Europe? Good to see that you so clearly won over the majority of the uncommitted in the audience. Nothing much has changed. The arrogance and undemocratic attitudes of the Europhiles still prevails but with greater intensity, despite all the arguments. But when did they ever allow the facts to stand in the way of their dictatorial vision for a United States of Europe?
Good to see that you so clearly won over the majority of the uncommitted in the audience.

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