Comments on: Bin spin and sin - suggest a headline for Labour’s rubbish policy http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:12:08 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: apl http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1889 apl Sun, 29 Apr 2007 21:28:41 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1889 JR: JR:

]]> By: Richard Clarke http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1840 Richard Clarke Sun, 29 Apr 2007 11:53:20 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1840 By coincidence today here are two more excellent articles on this subject http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/29/nbooker29.xml http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2007/04/no-wonder-they-dont-want-to-talk-about.html Seems to sum up the problem pretty well I think! By coincidence today here are two more excellent articles on this subject

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/04/29/nbooker29.xml

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2007/04/no-wonder-they-dont-want-to-talk-about.html

Seems to sum up the problem pretty well I think!

]]> By: Stuart Fairney http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1833 Stuart Fairney Sun, 29 Apr 2007 10:45:30 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1833 That's a really succinct four point analysis of the spin, amounting to "it's nothing to do with me, it's someone else's fault" That’s a really succinct four point analysis of the spin, amounting to “it’s nothing to do with me, it’s someone else’s fault”

]]> By: John Stewart http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1827 John Stewart Sun, 29 Apr 2007 09:08:25 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1827 Hospital A&E closures in conservative areas should be the No 1, 2, 3 &4 issue for all southern conservatives. This is the reason why Labour will be wiped out in the SE local elections. People are not prepared to lose their A&E's. When Labour lose every single councellor challenge Hewitt as to where her mandate is to cut primary health case (a basic Human Right) to political opponents. The Conservative party MUST stand up for their constituents on this issue - we will follow you in our tens of thousands Hospital A&E closures in conservative areas should be the No 1, 2, 3 &4 issue for all southern conservatives. This is the reason why Labour will be wiped out in the SE local elections. People are not prepared to lose their A&E’s.

When Labour lose every single councellor challenge Hewitt as to where her mandate is to cut primary health case (a basic Human Right) to political opponents.

The Conservative party MUST stand up for their constituents on this issue - we will follow you in our tens of thousands

]]> By: APL http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1815 APL Sun, 29 Apr 2007 07:32:02 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1815 : "If they want to move to pay as you throw, I hope they will let us choose whose service we pay our money to, so there would be some competition." What are the alternative CONSERVATIVE policies? So far you are simply making a fool of yourself telling us what the other parties are doing wrong. The truth is you cannot offer alternative policies with any substantial difference to the other parties. John, it is not about competition, that 'wallah' from biffra, knows what it is about, it is the bloody European Union. We could have as much competition as you want, we already know the cheapest method of waste disposal, it is land fill.If we use it there is no competitive advantage because the EU will fine the UK for using cheap landfill! Competition among waste disposal organisations cannot work if there is an overarching organisation deliberately disencentivising the lowest cost behaviour. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/04/28/do2807.xml You know that is the case, but I guess you cannot say so because Cameron has foolishly cast himself as being 'green', that together with his pro European Union policy stance. Here is how you could introduce competition, European Union competition. Pledge to reassert UK authority over domestic waste disposal and if you get elected at the same time pass leglislation making the UK immune from the financial penalties the EU will impose. The UK can perfectly well accomodate responsible and properly managed landfill rubbish disposal. Those well managed sites can even produce methane as a by product. But we cannot do that while being hamstrung by the European Union. : “If they want to move to pay as you throw, I hope they will let us choose whose service we pay our money to, so there would be some competition.”

What are the alternative CONSERVATIVE policies? So far you are simply making a fool of yourself telling us what the other parties are doing wrong. The truth is you cannot offer alternative policies with any substantial difference to the other parties.

John, it is not about competition, that ‘wallah’ from biffra, knows what it is about, it is the bloody European Union. We could have as much competition as you want, we already know the cheapest method of waste disposal, it is land fill.If we use it there is no competitive advantage because the EU will fine the UK for using cheap landfill! Competition among waste disposal organisations cannot work if there is an overarching organisation deliberately disencentivising the lowest cost behaviour.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2007/04/28/do2807.xml

You know that is the case, but I guess you cannot say so because Cameron has foolishly cast himself as being ‘green’, that together with his pro European Union policy stance.

Here is how you could introduce competition, European Union competition. Pledge to reassert UK authority over domestic waste disposal and if you get elected at the same time pass leglislation making the UK immune from the financial penalties the EU will impose. The UK can perfectly well accomodate responsible and properly managed landfill rubbish disposal. Those well managed sites can even produce methane as a by product. But we cannot do that while being hamstrung by the European Union.

]]> By: billy http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1805 billy Sat, 28 Apr 2007 18:41:38 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1805 Recycling Labour never works Recycling Labour never works

]]> By: Richard Clarke http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1799 Richard Clarke Sat, 28 Apr 2007 14:34:32 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1799 Here's a pretty good article summarising the causes of this problem http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2007/04/space-fillers-strike-again.html Here’s a pretty good article summarising the causes of this problem

http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2007/04/space-fillers-strike-again.html

]]> By: David Anthony http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1788 David Anthony Sat, 28 Apr 2007 11:25:49 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1788 Labour councillors disposed of at the polls Labour's recycled policies dumped into the bin Labour councillors disposed of at the polls

Labour’s recycled policies dumped into the bin

]]> By: Peter Turner http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/04/28/bin-spin-and-sin-suggest-a-headline-for-labours-rubbish-policy/#comment-1786 Peter Turner Sat, 28 Apr 2007 10:42:58 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=226#comment-1786 The PRIME PURPOSE for rubbish collection is as a public health measure - and it works. Everything else, including re-cycling, is secondary. If re-cycling was such a good thing and cost effective then rubbish would be a saleable commodity. The PRIME PURPOSE for rubbish collection is as a public health measure - and it works. Everything else, including re-cycling, is secondary. If re-cycling was such a good thing and cost effective then rubbish would be a saleable commodity.

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