Comments on: What’s so difficult about saying “No”? Why we need a referendum. http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/06/22/whats-so-difficult-about-saying-no-why-we-need-a-referendum/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:15:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Jorgen http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/06/22/whats-so-difficult-about-saying-no-why-we-need-a-referendum/#comment-3549 Jorgen Sat, 23 Jun 2007 11:44:22 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=319#comment-3549 <i>answer: ... and is pledged to repatriate powers once in government</i> How far? The EU has been happily milking the UK powers for years, so a return to where we were the day before yesterday is not going to make any change to the better. Cameron telling the EU that he is not in favour of a superstate, is not going to impress them either. answer: … and is pledged to repatriate powers once in government

How far? The EU has been happily milking the UK powers for years, so a return to where we were the day before yesterday is not going to make any change to the better. Cameron telling the EU that he is not in favour of a superstate, is not going to impress them either.

]]> By: Diablo http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/06/22/whats-so-difficult-about-saying-no-why-we-need-a-referendum/#comment-3544 Diablo Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:41:54 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=319#comment-3544 John, I fear for my children. They are being sold down the river and I can't do anything about it. What sort of world are they going to live in when the EU rules every aspect of their lives? Emigration seems to be the only option. John, I fear for my children. They are being sold down the river and I can’t do anything about it. What sort of world are they going to live in when the EU rules every aspect of their lives? Emigration seems to be the only option.

]]> By: Brian Tomkinson http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/06/22/whats-so-difficult-about-saying-no-why-we-need-a-referendum/#comment-3535 Brian Tomkinson Fri, 22 Jun 2007 09:01:36 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=319#comment-3535 Like you, I voted against Britain's entry into what was then called the Common Market. I had attended numerous meetings and through questioning political proponents of British membership had realised that their enthusiasm was based not on the economic arguments they articulated but a political agenda. This agenda they preferred to keep to themselves and consequently the whole concept "sold" to the British people was based on a lie, a complete deception. Little has changed in the intervening years other than this deceit has become more transparent and the name changed to European Union to reflect the reality. Little by little our rights to democratic self determination have been ceded to Brussels. This weekend we are witnessing a re-run of the charade that takes place whenever these meetings take place. The outcome is always the same, more power given to the EU. This is wholly undemocratic. Who gave any British Prime Minister permission to give away our democratic rights? As for the prospect of a referendum on this so called treaty, what makes you seriously believe that if one were held and a "No" vote resulted, that this would force a renegotiation of our whole position, around an agenda of returning powers to the UK"? Although desirable, the very suggestion would bring accusations from your opponents that you are using such a referendum for a different purpose. Which brings me to my final point - is the Conservative Party pledging to renegotiate a return of powers to the UK if elected to government or is the basic lie to be allowed to continue and the few powers left to us be given over to this unelected, undemocratic body leaving us disenfranchised citizens of a European dictatorship. Like you, I voted against Britain’s entry into what was then called the Common Market. I had attended numerous meetings and through questioning political proponents of British membership had realised that their enthusiasm was based not on the economic arguments they articulated but a political agenda. This agenda they preferred to keep to themselves and consequently the whole concept “sold” to the British people was based on a lie, a complete deception. Little has changed in the intervening years other than this deceit has become more transparent and the name changed to European Union to reflect the reality. Little by little our rights to democratic self determination have been ceded to Brussels. This weekend we are witnessing a re-run of the charade that takes place whenever these meetings take place. The outcome is always the same, more power given to the EU. This is wholly undemocratic. Who gave any British Prime Minister permission to give away our democratic rights? As for the prospect of a referendum on this so called treaty, what makes you seriously believe that if one were held and a “No” vote resulted, that this would force a renegotiation of our whole position, around an agenda of returning powers to the UK”? Although desirable, the very suggestion would bring accusations from your opponents that you are using such a referendum for a different purpose. Which brings me to my final point - is the Conservative Party pledging to renegotiate a return of powers to the UK if elected to government or is the basic lie to be allowed to continue and the few powers left to us be given over to this unelected, undemocratic body leaving us disenfranchised citizens of a European dictatorship.

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