Comments on: Labour’s (and Polly Toynbee’s) errors about the Economic Policy Review http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/08/15/labours-and-polly-toynbees-errors-about-the-economic-policy-review/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Wed, 19 Nov 2008 13:17:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Adarnekeeleam http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/08/15/labours-and-polly-toynbees-errors-about-the-economic-policy-review/#comment-16608 Adarnekeeleam Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:23:03 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=418#comment-16608 http://www.google.com http://www.yahoo.com http://www.msn.com http://www.google.com
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]]> By: Steven_L http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/08/15/labours-and-polly-toynbees-errors-about-the-economic-policy-review/#comment-4892 Steven_L Wed, 15 Aug 2007 21:38:30 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=418#comment-4892 It baffles me how Toynbee has so many fans, or even a job coming to think of it. The other week she was trying to smear Boris Johnson as a racist because he writes good parody. Now she wants her readers to reference you, and any Tory that proposes change in the direction of less regulation, to Rumsfeld and Cheney by insisting you're "... a neocon throwback from the Thatcher era." It is always worth noting that Toynbee is a signatory to an ideology called 'humanism' that seeks to curb religious freedoms. She is President of the 'British Humanist Association'. Wikipedia sheds a bit of light on her cult here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Humanist_Association Anyone that stands against the ulterior motives of her or her 'Humanist' allies is therefore smeared. As she did with Boris Johnson, she picks up on little bits of what you have said or written and proceeds to twist the context and distort the facts, before using what marketing men and consumer behaviourists call 'reference groups' in an attempt to put centre-ground voters off you. Polly picks up a tidy sum from the Guardian in the process. NB I HAVE EDITED OUT A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS. These remain the views of Steven L, not mine JR It baffles me how Toynbee has so many fans, or even a job coming to think of it. The other week she was trying to smear Boris Johnson as a racist because he writes good parody. Now she wants her readers to reference you, and any Tory that proposes change in the direction of less regulation, to Rumsfeld and Cheney by insisting you’re “… a neocon throwback from the Thatcher era.”

It is always worth noting that Toynbee is a signatory to an ideology called ‘humanism’ that seeks to curb religious freedoms. She is President of the ‘British Humanist Association’.

Wikipedia sheds a bit of light on her cult here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Humanist_Association

Anyone that stands against the ulterior motives of her or her ‘Humanist’ allies is therefore smeared. As she did with Boris Johnson, she picks up on little bits of what you have said or written and proceeds to twist the context and distort the facts, before using what marketing men and consumer behaviourists call ‘reference groups’ in an attempt to put centre-ground voters off you.

Polly picks up a tidy sum from the Guardian in the process.

NB I HAVE EDITED OUT A COUPLE OF PARAGRAPHS. These remain the views of Steven L, not mine JR

]]> By: The Wardman Wire » Do Health and Safety Professionals Get too Much of a Kicking? http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/08/15/labours-and-polly-toynbees-errors-about-the-economic-policy-review/#comment-4878 The Wardman Wire » Do Health and Safety Professionals Get too Much of a Kicking? Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:46:34 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=418#comment-4878 [...] If you visit the forum, do bear in mind that you are a guest, and that the forum debate is polite and professional. There are two threads: Radio 4 Interview and Has the world gone mad. Devil’s Kitchen or Ministry of Truth, it is not. I wonder if Mutley the Dog, David Osler or John Redwood have a view on this. Incidentally, John Redwood refutes Polly Toynbee’s statements about his (alleged by her) proposals to undermine Health and Safety law recent report on deregulation. [...] [...] If you visit the forum, do bear in mind that you are a guest, and that the forum debate is polite and professional. There are two threads: Radio 4 Interview and Has the world gone mad. Devil’s Kitchen or Ministry of Truth, it is not. I wonder if Mutley the Dog, David Osler or John Redwood have a view on this. Incidentally, John Redwood refutes Polly Toynbee’s statements about his (alleged by her) proposals to undermine Health and Safety law recent report on deregulation. [...]

]]> By: Brian Tomkinson http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/08/15/labours-and-polly-toynbees-errors-about-the-economic-policy-review/#comment-4877 Brian Tomkinson Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:03:16 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=418#comment-4877 I see, this was all a carefully planned media campaign!!! I think you should re-read your diary posting on August 13 at 07:21. However, we are basically on the same side in wanting to ensure that Brown is not able to comfortably walk back into 10 Downing Street whenever he decides to call an election. I still maintain that your party is losing the initiative and failing to get its messages across whenever these policy review reports are launched. The same thing happened recently with Ian Duncan Smith's policy review. David Cameron, in my view, has given himself a massive task in having to overcome the image he has created by basing himself on Blair when it should have been obvious to even a political novice that Blair had finally been seen to be a charlatan by the voters. Style over substance must be rapidly reversed but if the substance is not presented effectively your party is doomed to languish in opposition to the unworthy Brown and Labour. I see, this was all a carefully planned media campaign!!! I think you should re-read your diary posting on August 13 at 07:21.
However, we are basically on the same side in wanting to ensure that Brown is not able to comfortably walk back into 10 Downing Street whenever he decides to call an election. I still maintain that your party is losing the initiative and failing to get its messages across whenever these policy review reports are launched. The same thing happened recently with Ian Duncan Smith’s policy review.
David Cameron, in my view, has given himself a massive task in having to overcome the image he has created by basing himself on Blair when it should have been obvious to even a political novice that Blair had finally been seen to be a charlatan by the voters. Style over substance must be rapidly reversed but if the substance is not presented effectively your party is doomed to languish in opposition to the unworthy Brown and Labour.

]]> By: Brian Tomkinson http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/08/15/labours-and-polly-toynbees-errors-about-the-economic-policy-review/#comment-4861 Brian Tomkinson Wed, 15 Aug 2007 07:49:41 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=418#comment-4861 All this and, as I understand it, your report hasn't even been published yet! Doesn't this confirm my earlier posting regarding the folly of the premature release of information from your detailed policy reviews? Incidentally, you are very generous in using the word "error" to describe these deliberately malicious lies. Labour always has and will continue to fight dirty. You should know that by now and with all the PR and media people in your ranks your party should be more effective in dealing with it. All this and, as I understand it, your report hasn’t even been published yet! Doesn’t this confirm my earlier posting regarding the folly of the premature release of information from your detailed policy reviews?
Incidentally, you are very generous in using the word “error” to describe these deliberately malicious lies. Labour always has and will continue to fight dirty. You should know that by now and with all the PR and media people in your ranks your party should be more effective in dealing with it.

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