Comments on: Brown betrays Britain http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:04:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Brian Tomkinson http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8677 Brian Tomkinson Fri, 19 Oct 2007 12:37:02 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8677 Commissar Brown has confirmed (if any confirmation were necessary) that he is a mendacious leader whose words have no credibility other than to confirm that he believes the British people are a bunch of fools. He is not interested in restoring faith in politics or in listening to any other opinion than his own. We were warned by various former Labour cabinet ministers of his methods before he became Prime Minister. He is not worthy of any form of political office and must be opposed with the utmost rigour. Commissar Brown has confirmed (if any confirmation were necessary) that he is a mendacious leader whose words have no credibility other than to confirm that he believes the British people are a bunch of fools. He is not interested in restoring faith in politics or in listening to any other opinion than his own. We were warned by various former Labour cabinet ministers of his methods before he became Prime Minister. He is not worthy of any form of political office and must be opposed with the utmost rigour.

]]> By: Stephen Wright http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8668 Stephen Wright Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:17:01 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8668 Brown has probably calculated that it's now very unlikely that he'll win the next general election. His strategy therefore is to suck up to all the other European leaders in the hope that they'll offer him a nice job following his eventual dismissal by both the British electorate & his own party. He must know that he's disgraced himself on this side of The English Channel, but fortunately for him there are always lots of juicy sinecures to be had on the other side. Brown has probably calculated that it’s now very unlikely that he’ll win the next general election. His strategy therefore is to suck up to all the other European leaders in the hope that they’ll offer him a nice job following his eventual dismissal by both the British electorate & his own party.

He must know that he’s disgraced himself on this side of The English Channel, but fortunately for him there are always lots of juicy sinecures to be had on the other side.

]]> By: Toque http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8667 Toque Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:16:12 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8667 Unfortunately they do have a point when they say that the Thatcher and Major didn't offer us referendums. The question of whether this particular treaty hands over a lot or a little of our sovereignty is something of a moot point. The fact is that it's yet another step in the inexorable insidious creep of the EU. We have to have a referendum sometime so it may as well be now. Brown should stand by his manifesto pledge, and his pledge to the British people on becoming leader to 'listen to the people'. Reply: Thatcher only gave away 14 vetoes - compared to Labour's 150. Major did not offer a referendum on Maastricht because we had a clear and effective opt out from the main point, the single currency. I resigned from his governemnt partly to make the case that we should never enter the Euro - i.e. make permanent our use of the opt out. There is no such effective device against the EU's power grab under this latest Treaty. More importantly, the Tories did not offer a refernedum on a Treaty before an election - in order to neutralise the issue - and then rescind the offer once they had won! Unfortunately they do have a point when they say that the Thatcher and Major didn’t offer us referendums.

The question of whether this particular treaty hands over a lot or a little of our sovereignty is something of a moot point. The fact is that it’s yet another step in the inexorable insidious creep of the EU. We have to have a referendum sometime so it may as well be now.

Brown should stand by his manifesto pledge, and his pledge to the British people on becoming leader to ‘listen to the people’.

Reply: Thatcher only gave away 14 vetoes - compared to Labour’s 150. Major did not offer a referendum on Maastricht because we had a clear and effective opt out from the main point, the single currency. I resigned from his governemnt partly to make the case that we should never enter the Euro - i.e. make permanent our use of the opt out. There is no such effective device against the EU’s power grab under this latest Treaty. More importantly, the Tories did not offer a refernedum on a Treaty before an election - in order to neutralise the issue - and then rescind the offer once they had won!

]]> By: Cliff http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8661 Cliff Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:50:20 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/19/brown-betrays-britain/#comment-8661 Now that we have moved one step closer to a Soviet style superstate, do you think MPs will be given a free vote on the EU treaty(sic)? In keeping with recent events and statements relating to the cancelled election that Mr Brown believes he would have won, will Mr Brown not call a referendum because he believes he would win that too? Reply: no chance of free votes. Doubtless in Mr Brown's parallel universe he thinks he could win a referendum! Now that we have moved one step closer to a Soviet style superstate, do you think MPs will be given a free vote on the EU treaty(sic)?
In keeping with recent events and statements relating to the cancelled election that Mr Brown believes he would have won, will Mr Brown not call a referendum because he believes he would win that too?

Reply: no chance of free votes. Doubtless in Mr Brown’s parallel universe he thinks he could win a referendum!

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