Comments on: The Conservatives need to challenge Brown’s tax and waste culture http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Fri, 25 Jul 2008 16:52:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Michael Imperi http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-9407 Michael Imperi Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:02:38 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-9407 The irony of it all is that the Gershon Report which they have commissioned has been a waste of money as well . The report set targets for reducing waste which were punctually missed and of course more money was wasted thus. The situation reminds me of a true story in Italy a state famous for its bureaucracy and inefficiencies . In 1956 the Italian government commisioned a Quango called IGED ( rough translation for institution for the liquidation of non useful Quangos ) and identified 600 quangoes to be liquidated . None were liquidated of course but in the meantime 827 were identified . Guess what some could eventually be liquidated but by the year 2000 138 of these quangoes were still up and running despite IGED efforts. By 2002 it was clear that IGED itself was to be deemed a useful Quango as it could not fullfill its obligation thus becoming itself useless Quango number 139. Since then the IGED is trying as best as it can to liquidate itself but cannot even perform this function and is still sucking more money from the public purse . The irony of it all is that the Gershon Report which they have commissioned has been a waste of money as well . The report set targets for reducing waste which were punctually missed and of course more money was wasted thus. The situation reminds me of a true story in Italy a state famous for its bureaucracy and inefficiencies . In 1956 the Italian government commisioned a Quango called IGED ( rough translation for institution for the liquidation of non useful Quangos ) and identified 600 quangoes to be liquidated . None were liquidated of course but in the meantime 827 were identified . Guess what some could eventually be liquidated but by the year 2000 138 of these quangoes were still up and running despite IGED efforts. By 2002 it was clear that IGED itself was to be deemed a useful Quango as it could not fullfill its obligation thus becoming itself useless Quango number 139. Since then the IGED is trying as best as it can to liquidate itself but cannot even perform this function and is still sucking more money from the public purse .

]]> By: Derek http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-9134 Derek Tue, 23 Oct 2007 17:28:04 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-9134 When I used to work in the paper industry who do you think was our biggest UK customer of copier paper? I can only assume they found it more useful than Herceptin. It might be worth investigating if this is still the case and use it as a stick to beat the government with. Their spend on these products ought to have reduced significantly given how much they've spent on IT in the NHS. When I used to work in the paper industry who do you think was our biggest UK customer of copier paper? I can only assume they found it more useful than Herceptin. It might be worth investigating if this is still the case and use it as a stick to beat the government with. Their spend on these products ought to have reduced significantly given how much they’ve spent on IT in the NHS.

]]> By: Bridget Jones http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-9118 Bridget Jones Tue, 23 Oct 2007 09:15:48 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-9118 I agree with Tony's comments, they make sense. Labour are full of empty promises and spin. This was really brought home to me even more when I watched 'Britains 20 Best and 20 Worst Places to Live' on Channel Four, on Sunday. Predominately the 20 worst places to live were Labour held seats, with a few Lib Dem MP's thrown in. And, predominately the 20 best places to live were held by Conservative MPs. Just shows that under Labour they have not reached out and helped, as they promised, the most vulnerable and disaffected. Then, you get morons like Nick Clegg blaming everything on Thatcherism. Despite the fact that Labour have been in power now for 10 years. I think we're all just a bit tired of people like Nick Clegg, coming out with the same old cliches about the Conservative Party. We've changed, they haven't. I agree with Tony’s comments, they make sense.

Labour are full of empty promises and spin. This was really brought home to me even more when I watched ‘Britains 20 Best and 20 Worst Places to Live’ on Channel Four, on Sunday.

Predominately the 20 worst places to live were Labour held seats, with a few Lib Dem MP’s thrown in. And, predominately the 20 best places to live were held by Conservative MPs.

Just shows that under Labour they have not reached out and helped, as they promised, the most vulnerable and disaffected. Then, you get morons like Nick Clegg blaming everything on Thatcherism. Despite the fact that Labour have been in power now for 10 years. I think we’re all just a bit tired of people like Nick Clegg, coming out with the same old cliches about the Conservative Party. We’ve changed, they haven’t.

]]> By: Tony Makara http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-8972 Tony Makara Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:19:56 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-8972 I was always taught as a youngster that if ever I had a larger than usual amount of money then I should either put it into the bank or buy something worthwhile with it. Otherwise the money would end up being frittered away in a hundred different ways. That is how it is with the Labour government. They have so much money at their disposal they literally don't know what to do with it and they waste it on 1001 half baked ideas with no end product. The money is never targeted towards front-line services it is just handed over in bulk to each department which then tries to decide what it is going to do with it. Quite literally it is a case of the more they have, the more they waste. I was always taught as a youngster that if ever I had a larger than usual amount of money then I should either put it into the bank or buy something worthwhile with it. Otherwise the money would end up being frittered away in a hundred different ways. That is how it is with the Labour government. They have so much money at their disposal they literally don’t know what to do with it and they waste it on 1001 half baked ideas with no end product. The money is never targeted towards front-line services it is just handed over in bulk to each department which then tries to decide what it is going to do with it. Quite literally it is a case of the more they have, the more they waste.

]]> By: Brian Tomkinson http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-8969 Brian Tomkinson Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:03:28 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-8969 Your argument is well made and I agree whole-heartedly. Unfortunately, there are so many "clients" of Brown's largesse with our money that you will need to work very hard to overcome what has in effect been the buying of votes by creating a dependency culture. How many more people are in receipt of the multitude of "benefits", on quangos, in consultancies to various government departments, in valueless "jobs" created as a result of government policies, or in organisations dependant on government contracts, since Labour came to power? Brown has worked tirelessly to develop his client state. He has no vision or comprehension of how an organisation should function but has ruthlessly achieved his ambition of becoming Prime Minister and will continue to squander our money to keep it. Your argument is well made and I agree whole-heartedly. Unfortunately, there are so many “clients” of Brown’s largesse with our money that you will need to work very hard to overcome what has in effect been the buying of votes by creating a dependency culture. How many more people are in receipt of the multitude of “benefits”, on quangos, in consultancies to various government departments, in valueless “jobs” created as a result of government policies, or in organisations dependant on government contracts, since Labour came to power? Brown has worked tirelessly to develop his client state. He has no vision or comprehension of how an organisation should function but has ruthlessly achieved his ambition of becoming Prime Minister and will continue to squander our money to keep it.

]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-8961 Letters From A Tory Mon, 22 Oct 2007 07:33:31 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/10/22/the-conservatives-need-to-challenge-browns-tax-and-waste-culture/#comment-8961 The government do talk about outcomes, but only the ones that suit them. We need an independent statistics commission to take this kind of spin out of the equation. http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/ The government do talk about outcomes, but only the ones that suit them. We need an independent statistics commission to take this kind of spin out of the equation.

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