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	<title>Comments on: The A13 - how to mess up a good road</title>
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	<description>Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham</description>
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		<title>By: Adrian Windisch</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/11/the-a13-how-to-mess-up-a-good-road/#comment-11960</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Windisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps you have the wrong car, most cars will do 40 in top on a flat road in my experience. I'm against cars as they are the problem, polluting the air, and there are so many that average speeds decrease over the years. Supporting public transport will reduce pollution and congestion. Freight should also be encouraged to use trains, again to reduce pollution and congestion. Can you prove 'trains are dirtier than cars?', that isn't what I've read.

Most people use cars as they feel they have to, public transport is so bad and expensive in this country. Improving it, will reduce congestion. Building more roads has been proved not to work, and where will room be found to do it? Compulsory purchase of peoples homes will not be popular.

Reply: name a car where travelling at 39mph optimises fuel use. Supporting public transport may not cut pollution or CO2 output, as all vehicles pollute and generate CO2 at some or all stages of their life cycle. You need to look at the emissions on the whole journey, not just the bit that people can do by train. Few people live at a station one end of the journey and work at a station the other end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps you have the wrong car, most cars will do 40 in top on a flat road in my experience. I&#8217;m against cars as they are the problem, polluting the air, and there are so many that average speeds decrease over the years. Supporting public transport will reduce pollution and congestion. Freight should also be encouraged to use trains, again to reduce pollution and congestion. Can you prove &#8216;trains are dirtier than cars?&#8217;, that isn&#8217;t what I&#8217;ve read.</p>
<p>Most people use cars as they feel they have to, public transport is so bad and expensive in this country. Improving it, will reduce congestion. Building more roads has been proved not to work, and where will room be found to do it? Compulsory purchase of peoples homes will not be popular.</p>
<p>Reply: name a car where travelling at 39mph optimises fuel use. Supporting public transport may not cut pollution or CO2 output, as all vehicles pollute and generate CO2 at some or all stages of their life cycle. You need to look at the emissions on the whole journey, not just the bit that people can do by train. Few people live at a station one end of the journey and work at a station the other end.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/11/the-a13-how-to-mess-up-a-good-road/#comment-11941</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only way to lessen the impact of the car is to improve public transport in particular the trains, but the car is going to be here for a long time in the future in one form or another and is going to need roads. New roads. It was easy and short sighted  for the Conservatives to stop building any 
Europe has a far bigger road bulding plan and who has not been amazed by the German Autobahn with its billiard flat surface and bumper to bumper Bmw's Mercedes etc on their 155 mph speed limiters.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only way to lessen the impact of the car is to improve public transport in particular the trains, but the car is going to be here for a long time in the future in one form or another and is going to need roads. New roads. It was easy and short sighted  for the Conservatives to stop building any<br />
Europe has a far bigger road bulding plan and who has not been amazed by the German Autobahn with its billiard flat surface and bumper to bumper Bmw&#8217;s Mercedes etc on their 155 mph speed limiters.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Windisch</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/11/the-a13-how-to-mess-up-a-good-road/#comment-11839</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Windisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think public transport is green because it produces less emissions. Instead of spending the money on yet more roads, invest in more efficient train engines, get traffic off the road. We dont have enough land to build all the roads you want, 

Do you have proof that you consume more fuel at 40 than at 50/60? It depends on your car/style of driving/tyre pressure etc, but in a high gear at 40 isn't so bad. Perhaps all motorways/roads should have a max speed of 55 to conserve fuel, as happened in the USA after the oil crisis in the 70s.

Reply: My car tells me how much fuel it is using as I drive. I cannot drive at under 40mph in top gear, so yes it does use more fuel. Why are you so against personal flexible transport, and do you not appreciate buses and coaches, lorries and vans needs roads as well as cars? Trains are often dirtier than cars - trains onyl work as greener methods of travel when they are full or nearly full and when it is easy to get to and from the station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think public transport is green because it produces less emissions. Instead of spending the money on yet more roads, invest in more efficient train engines, get traffic off the road. We dont have enough land to build all the roads you want, </p>
<p>Do you have proof that you consume more fuel at 40 than at 50/60? It depends on your car/style of driving/tyre pressure etc, but in a high gear at 40 isn&#8217;t so bad. Perhaps all motorways/roads should have a max speed of 55 to conserve fuel, as happened in the USA after the oil crisis in the 70s.</p>
<p>Reply: My car tells me how much fuel it is using as I drive. I cannot drive at under 40mph in top gear, so yes it does use more fuel. Why are you so against personal flexible transport, and do you not appreciate buses and coaches, lorries and vans needs roads as well as cars? Trains are often dirtier than cars - trains onyl work as greener methods of travel when they are full or nearly full and when it is easy to get to and from the station.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Windisch</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/11/the-a13-how-to-mess-up-a-good-road/#comment-11748</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Windisch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Smith is wrong, speed cameras save lives. See www.thebikezone.org.uk/motorcarnage/wrongturn.html

It sounds like John wants a return to the Conservative road building program of the 90's that lead to increased congestion. The answer is to improve public transport, and cycling facilities; that will take cars off the road. The policy was thought to have died in 1994, when a government committee concluded that what environmentalists had been saying for years was correct - building more roads encourages more traffic. 

Just look at the Newbury bypass, lots of money spent on what he may call a 'green road', but it encouraged traffic. See www.cpre.org.uk/news/view/321

John you should drive at the legal speed of 40 mph withought the speeding up and slowing down near speed cameras, leave it in high gear and save fuel. Or better yet get the train.

Reply: I did travel at 40mph but that means a lower gear and more fuel consumption. Be realistic - 86% of all miles travelled are travelled  by car or van. Even buses need roads. It is often a green option to improve the road. Why do you think trains are green? Many of them are dirty old diesel engines  of a kind we wouldn't allow on the roads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Smith is wrong, speed cameras save lives. See <a href="http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/motorcarnage/wrongturn.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thebikezone.org.uk/motorcarnage/wrongturn.html</a></p>
<p>It sounds like John wants a return to the Conservative road building program of the 90&#8217;s that lead to increased congestion. The answer is to improve public transport, and cycling facilities; that will take cars off the road. The policy was thought to have died in 1994, when a government committee concluded that what environmentalists had been saying for years was correct - building more roads encourages more traffic. </p>
<p>Just look at the Newbury bypass, lots of money spent on what he may call a &#8216;green road&#8217;, but it encouraged traffic. See <a href="http://www.cpre.org.uk/news/view/321" rel="nofollow">http://www.cpre.org.uk/news/view/321</a></p>
<p>John you should drive at the legal speed of 40 mph withought the speeding up and slowing down near speed cameras, leave it in high gear and save fuel. Or better yet get the train.</p>
<p>Reply: I did travel at 40mph but that means a lower gear and more fuel consumption. Be realistic - 86% of all miles travelled are travelled  by car or van. Even buses need roads. It is often a green option to improve the road. Why do you think trains are green? Many of them are dirty old diesel engines  of a kind we wouldn&#8217;t allow on the roads.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/11/the-a13-how-to-mess-up-a-good-road/#comment-11654</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 21:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points. As a motorcyclist.The amount of numb skulls on the roads is stupid. If I ever see you arguing with your bitch on the phone. I will drag you out of the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points. As a motorcyclist.The amount of numb skulls on the roads is stupid. If I ever see you arguing with your bitch on the phone. I will drag you out of the car.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/11/the-a13-how-to-mess-up-a-good-road/#comment-11631</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People not familiar with Paul Smith may find it helpful to read his letter starting "Dear Road User" on the website http://www.safespeed.org.uk/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People not familiar with Paul Smith may find it helpful to read his letter starting &#8220;Dear Road User&#8221; on the website <a href="http://www.safespeed.org.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://www.safespeed.org.uk/</a></p>
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