Comments on: How to solve the Scottish problem for Mr Brown http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Mon, 13 Oct 2008 17:57:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Bazman http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12422 Bazman Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:35:58 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12422 The conservatives are pretty much dead in Scotland. Probably due to the Scottish sense of 'Social Justice'. Though on the ground, not many people believe in the SNP. According to Scottish girlfriends... The conservatives are pretty much dead in Scotland. Probably due to the Scottish sense of ‘Social Justice’. Though on the ground, not many people believe in the SNP. According to Scottish girlfriends…

]]> By: Man in a Shed http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12389 Man in a Shed Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:22:29 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12389 That memo should be cc'd to Cameron also. The English question needs to be answered, but there is now also a British question - what is the Union for ? Defence of the union has tended to be negative and fear based. the opportunity for the Conservatives is to be radical and determine the future of the UK for the next 200 years as a federated state of the home countries. That memo should be cc’d to Cameron also.

The English question needs to be answered, but there is now also a British question - what is the Union for ?

Defence of the union has tended to be negative and fear based.

the opportunity for the Conservatives is to be radical and determine the future of the UK for the next 200 years as a federated state of the home countries.

]]> By: Neil Craig http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12384 Neil Craig Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:47:39 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12384 It would put independence off the agneda for a generation(except possibly in England) but I suspect this would help not hinder the SNP. The SNP got in on the sensible grounds that they were going to run the place better than thenumpties of Scottish Labour. Labour did indeed run their election on the threat of independence. With that off the agenda non-Labour unionists would have no problem voting for them. The fact is that the SNP, while somewhat schizoid on free enterprise, have put forward a more progressive agenda (lower business rates & corporation tax than England) than our Tories. Under PR there is an electoral niche for a free market party & the SNP have occupied it because the Tories refused to. The solution is obvious. It would put independence off the agneda for a generation(except possibly in England) but I suspect this would help not hinder the SNP.

The SNP got in on the sensible grounds that they were going to run the place better than thenumpties of Scottish Labour. Labour did indeed run their election on the threat of independence. With that off the agenda non-Labour unionists would have no problem voting for them. The fact is that the SNP, while somewhat schizoid on free enterprise, have put forward a more progressive agenda (lower business rates & corporation tax than England) than our Tories.

Under PR there is an electoral niche for a free market party & the SNP have occupied it because the Tories refused to. The solution is obvious.

]]> By: English http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12383 English Sun, 18 Nov 2007 13:10:21 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12383 For a man who claims to be a democratic Conservative, and an intelligent one at that. I cannot understand why both Mr Redwood and his party, fail to move on and see that this continued "votes for the scots" "let scotland decide" mentality not only alienates both himself and his party from England and the English. But, mirrors the complete contempt of the no mandate pm and his no mandate govt from HM opposition for the people of England. Mr Redwood, your party used to be the party of England, it used to stand for something, now it is lead by a redundant mirror clone of blair, and is still bleating for a union that technically ended in 1921, and terminally ended with the scottish govt. You cannot have one country with two gov't,s Scotland has decalred itself a govt, time for England to do the same , and remove the signatories to the scottish claim of right from OUR Westminster Parliament forever, including those from within your own party. Remove England from the EU, and watch England become the world leader it always has been. Somehow I dont think the tories, have the stomach to face such facts, and other parties will come into their own do the right thing the the tories are so spineless in facing. Referendum now on English independence How to remove England from the EU reply: Please read the blog intelligently. It is written as if by an adviser of Brown from the Labour point of view! It is not my view nor the Conservative view. For a man who claims to be a democratic Conservative, and an intelligent one at that.
I cannot understand why both Mr Redwood and his party, fail to move on and see that this continued “votes for the scots” “let scotland decide” mentality not only alienates both himself and his party from England and the English.
But, mirrors the complete contempt of the no mandate pm and his no mandate govt from HM opposition for the people of England.
Mr Redwood, your party used to be the party of England, it used to stand for something, now it is lead by a redundant mirror clone of blair, and is still bleating for a union that technically ended in 1921, and terminally ended with the scottish govt.
You cannot have one country with two gov’t,s
Scotland has decalred itself a govt, time for England to do the same , and remove the signatories to the scottish claim of right from OUR Westminster Parliament forever, including those from within your own party.
Remove England from the EU, and watch England become the world leader it always has been.
Somehow I dont think the tories, have the stomach to face such facts, and other parties will come into their own do the right thing the the tories are so spineless in facing.

Referendum now on
English independence
How to remove England from the EU

reply: Please read the blog intelligently. It is written as if by an adviser of Brown from the Labour point of view! It is not my view nor the Conservative view.

]]> By: Toque http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12380 Toque Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:23:36 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12380 Yet another referendum for the Scots would lead the English to demand one of their own. reply: It might - but it is unlikely Brown will grant us one. We need a change of personnel at westminster so it is not so anti English. Yet another referendum for the Scots would lead the English to demand one of their own.

reply: It might - but it is unlikely Brown will grant us one. We need a change of personnel at westminster so it is not so anti English.

]]> By: T. Yke http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12373 T. Yke Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:40:43 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12373 He'd choke on his porridge if you really sent that. You know what I'm going to say, though. Why are the Scots getting so many referendums and the English aren't allowed a single one? Let us speak now. This marriage is over and the longer it is left, the messier the divorce will get. He’d choke on his porridge if you really sent that.

You know what I’m going to say, though. Why are the Scots getting so many referendums and the English aren’t allowed a single one? Let us speak now. This marriage is over and the longer it is left, the messier the divorce will get.

]]> By: Tally http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12370 Tally Sun, 18 Nov 2007 10:31:02 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2007/11/18/how-to-solve-the-scottish-problem-for-mr-brown/#comment-12370 On the eve of the North East regional assembly referendum, all parties agreed to abide by the result. Three years later regional assemblies are still in operation (with Conservatives sitting on them)and being payed for by council tax payers. Could some one explain in what way all parties abided by the result? On the eve of the North East regional assembly referendum, all
parties agreed to abide by the result. Three years later regional assemblies are still in operation (with Conservatives sitting on them)and being payed for by council tax payers. Could some one explain in what way all parties abided by the result?

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