Comments on: The smoke and fog of EU battle http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/ Conservative Party Candidate for Wokingham Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:56:39 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: John Redwood explains Tory tactics. « Curly’s Corner Shop, the blog! http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16660 John Redwood explains Tory tactics. « Curly’s Corner Shop, the blog! Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:09:56 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16660 [...] the first reading of the Bill to ratify the Lisbon treaty. Concerned at the apparent lack of bite I posed the question with John Redwood - why did the Conservatives fail to add their name to the amendment from rebel Labour [...] [...] the first reading of the Bill to ratify the Lisbon treaty. Concerned at the apparent lack of bite I posed the question with John Redwood – why did the Conservatives fail to add their name to the amendment from rebel Labour [...]

]]> By: Curly http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16635 Curly Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:46:09 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16635 The Sky News blog today reports; "Conservatives blundered by not putting their name to the rebel Labour amendment calling for a referendum on the treaty." Why is this John? Why is our party not united in calling for a referendum on this odious treaty? Reply: Had the amendment yesterday been called we would have voted for it, but the Speaker decided not to call it. It was not, however, an amendment to get a referendum but a vote to cancel the Bill as a whole - which is exactly what we voted to do by opposing Second Reading along with a few Labour rebels. We always planned to table our referendum amendment during the course of the Committee proceedings, and will do so - or we will support a Labour one tabled at that time. That will give opportuntiy for Labour to vote with us. Without the Lib dems we will not win.The thing to do is to concentrate on pressurising Lib dems to vote with us to give us some chance of winning. The Sky News blog today reports;

“Conservatives blundered by not putting their name to the rebel Labour amendment calling for a referendum on the treaty.”

Why is this John?

Why is our party not united in calling for a referendum on this odious treaty?

Reply:

Had the amendment yesterday been called we would have voted for it, but the Speaker decided not to call it. It was not, however, an amendment to get a referendum but a vote to cancel the Bill as a whole – which is exactly what we voted to do by opposing Second Reading along with a few Labour rebels. We always planned to table our referendum amendment during the course of the Committee proceedings, and will do so – or we will support a Labour one tabled at that time. That will give opportuntiy for Labour to vote with us. Without the Lib dems we will not win.The thing to do is to concentrate on pressurising Lib dems to vote with us to give us some chance of winning.

]]> By: mikestallard http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16630 mikestallard Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:51:49 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16630 Open Europe has produced, today, a copy of the Treaty of Lisbon compared with the Constitution. You only have to glance at it to see that both documents are extremely similar. The constitution made fascinating reading. If you want a go, then here is the reference: http://www.openeurope.org.uk/research/comparative.pdf Open Europe has produced, today, a copy of the Treaty of Lisbon compared with the Constitution.
You only have to glance at it to see that both documents are extremely similar.
The constitution made fascinating reading. If you want a go, then here is the reference:

http://www.openeurope.org.uk/research/comparative.pdf

]]> By: Stuart Fairney http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16620 Stuart Fairney Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:38:55 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16620 If I may, from the Lib Dem 2005 manifesto, upon which all their MP's were elected "We are therefore clear in our support for the constitution, which we believe is in Britains interest If I may, from the Lib Dem 2005 manifesto, upon which all their MP’s were elected

“We are therefore clear in our support for the constitution, which we believe is in Britains interest

]]> By: newmania http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16613 newmania Mon, 21 Jan 2008 09:49:01 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16613 Never believe a Lib Dem promise Quite and their behaviour over this does not bode well should they hold a balance of power after the next GE. In practice they will support Brown grab PR and steal democracy as we understand it from us perhaps forever. I see that a sustained demand for assurances oterwise must be maintained . Never believe a Lib Dem promise

Quite and their behaviour over this does not bode well should they hold a balance of power after the next GE. In practice they will support Brown grab PR and steal democracy as we understand it from us perhaps forever. I see that a sustained demand for assurances oterwise must be maintained .

]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16611 Letters From A Tory Mon, 21 Jan 2008 08:06:39 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/21/the-smoke-and-fog-of-eu-battle/#comment-16611 It is going to require a mammoth effort to kill this off, so good luck John - the country really is behind you. http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com It is going to require a mammoth effort to kill this off, so good luck John – the country really is behind you.

http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com

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