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	<title>Comments on: Yesterday&#8217;s EU Treaty proceedings explained</title>
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	<description>Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jul 2008 21:08:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John Mounsey</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/22/yesterdays-eu-treaty-proceedings-explained/#comment-16710</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mounsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that it came as no real surprise to learn that Calamity Clegg had reneged on his promises. Lib Dems (particularly in local elections – I live in Barnes so I know!) are well-known for saying whatever they think the audience wishes to hear at any particular time. 

I was astonished but impressed when the Lib Dems originally declared they wanted a referendum on the honourable grounds that, while in favour of the treaty themselves, they thought the people should be given a choice about such a major change in our relationship with Europe. 

Clegg has simply reverted to the Lib Dems' normal slavish position on all things European, but I suspect he has done the Lib Dems' cause no favours by his cowardly U-turn. The man is a fool and a knave: another stellar choice by the UK's most useless political party!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that it came as no real surprise to learn that Calamity Clegg had reneged on his promises. Lib Dems (particularly in local elections – I live in Barnes so I know!) are well-known for saying whatever they think the audience wishes to hear at any particular time. </p>
<p>I was astonished but impressed when the Lib Dems originally declared they wanted a referendum on the honourable grounds that, while in favour of the treaty themselves, they thought the people should be given a choice about such a major change in our relationship with Europe. </p>
<p>Clegg has simply reverted to the Lib Dems&#8217; normal slavish position on all things European, but I suspect he has done the Lib Dems&#8217; cause no favours by his cowardly U-turn. The man is a fool and a knave: another stellar choice by the UK&#8217;s most useless political party!</p>
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		<title>By: newmania</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/22/yesterdays-eu-treaty-proceedings-explained/#comment-16676</link>
		<dc:creator>newmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hoqw did I ever do without this blog. Tory Radio has a great Clegg joke for anyone who is interested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoqw did I ever do without this blog. Tory Radio has a great Clegg joke for anyone who is interested.</p>
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/22/yesterdays-eu-treaty-proceedings-explained/#comment-16670</link>
		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think "treacherous" is an extremely good way of describing the way the Lib Dems voted.  They let their party down and they let the country down.  Shame on them.

http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think &#8220;treacherous&#8221; is an extremely good way of describing the way the Lib Dems voted.  They let their party down and they let the country down.  Shame on them.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/22/yesterdays-eu-treaty-proceedings-explained/#comment-16659</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are right! Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are right! Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Derek W. Buxton</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/22/yesterdays-eu-treaty-proceedings-explained/#comment-16656</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek W. Buxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you rely on the Lib-Dums you can forget the whole scheme.  In case you hadn't,  noticed they want in to the EU scam and have been quite open about it for some years.  They see it as a way of getting some power and left wing to boot, right up their street.  It has all the things they love, high taxation, shedloads of regulation and lots of high paying, low workload jobs for them and their hangers on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you rely on the Lib-Dums you can forget the whole scheme.  In case you hadn&#8217;t,  noticed they want in to the EU scam and have been quite open about it for some years.  They see it as a way of getting some power and left wing to boot, right up their street.  It has all the things they love, high taxation, shedloads of regulation and lots of high paying, low workload jobs for them and their hangers on.</p>
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		<title>By: Vindico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vindico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can but hope you succeed in forcing this arrogant government and 'honorable' members to be so generous as to give the people they represent a say on such an important matter. They may not think the people intelligent enough to make a decision on the treaty, but I know a large number of people who dont think most MPs intelligent enough to make decisions on such issues as the treaty!
MPs need to remember that is us, the people, from whom they derive their power. It is us, the people, whom they are supposed to represent, and it is our, the people's, right to decide over their governance. It is that right which we lend to MPs, and at the end of each Parliament those powers must be returned undiminished to the people.
The deceit and treachery of many MPs is astonishing. Politicians are so detached they think state funding of parties is required to re-engage people in the political process. They are so arrogant that they do not even possibly consider the fact that it is they who are the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can but hope you succeed in forcing this arrogant government and &#8216;honorable&#8217; members to be so generous as to give the people they represent a say on such an important matter. They may not think the people intelligent enough to make a decision on the treaty, but I know a large number of people who dont think most MPs intelligent enough to make decisions on such issues as the treaty!<br />
MPs need to remember that is us, the people, from whom they derive their power. It is us, the people, whom they are supposed to represent, and it is our, the people&#8217;s, right to decide over their governance. It is that right which we lend to MPs, and at the end of each Parliament those powers must be returned undiminished to the people.<br />
The deceit and treachery of many MPs is astonishing. Politicians are so detached they think state funding of parties is required to re-engage people in the political process. They are so arrogant that they do not even possibly consider the fact that it is they who are the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: haddock</title>
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		<dc:creator>haddock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:17:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the whole debate on television, well done on your part !
I see the spirit of Traitor Heath lives on with Ken Clark and others. The belief they hold in the divine right of MPs does democracy no favours.
It was good to hear Gisela Stuart, Austin Mitchell, Frank Field, Roger Godsiff, Gwyneth Dunwoody, Graham Stringer and Ian Davidson speaking on my behalf to counter the bombasts on the Conservative benches who spoke against my right to a democratic vote.
Can you please name those of your party that voted with the government?

As for the libdumbs, I loved the comment by Frank Field about them   nailing their colours firmly to the fence. They have inflicted a serious wound on themselves by their behaviour yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the whole debate on television, well done on your part !<br />
I see the spirit of Traitor Heath lives on with Ken Clark and others. The belief they hold in the divine right of MPs does democracy no favours.<br />
It was good to hear Gisela Stuart, Austin Mitchell, Frank Field, Roger Godsiff, Gwyneth Dunwoody, Graham Stringer and Ian Davidson speaking on my behalf to counter the bombasts on the Conservative benches who spoke against my right to a democratic vote.<br />
Can you please name those of your party that voted with the government?</p>
<p>As for the libdumbs, I loved the comment by Frank Field about them   nailing their colours firmly to the fence. They have inflicted a serious wound on themselves by their behaviour yesterday.</p>
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