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	<title>Comments on: The Home Secretary does not know the meaning of &#8220;consultation&#8221;</title>
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	<description>Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 22:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: g w face</title>
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		<dc:creator>g w face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 20:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to advise john redwood that like many others I am insenced by the revelations regarding MP conway who has been cheating the public by paying his two sons and their hangers on illegally out of Taxes that the working man has worked hard to earn. Even when I have paid my due taxes I am accused of underpaying by innefficient Tax Clerks, at this point in time as a pensioner I have to spend days corressponding with HM Customs and Excise to try and reclaim nearly £1000.00 overpayment that has been withheld unlawfully from me.

George Face

Wokingham Resident

Reply: Mr Conway was sacked from the Copnseravtive party and can no longer act as a Conservative MP, because David Cameron and the party agree his conduct was unacceptable. If you would like help in dealing with the Revenue and Customs please send me the details to the House of Commons, SW1A 0AA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to advise john redwood that like many others I am insenced by the revelations regarding MP conway who has been cheating the public by paying his two sons and their hangers on illegally out of Taxes that the working man has worked hard to earn. Even when I have paid my due taxes I am accused of underpaying by innefficient Tax Clerks, at this point in time as a pensioner I have to spend days corressponding with HM Customs and Excise to try and reclaim nearly £1000.00 overpayment that has been withheld unlawfully from me.</p>
<p>George Face</p>
<p>Wokingham Resident</p>
<p>Reply: Mr Conway was sacked from the Copnseravtive party and can no longer act as a Conservative MP, because David Cameron and the party agree his conduct was unacceptable. If you would like help in dealing with the Revenue and Customs please send me the details to the House of Commons, SW1A 0AA</p>
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		<title>By: Susan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 12:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Mr Redwood - I feel you, and many of your colleagues on the Opposition benches, have instinctively caught the fundamental nature of Britain and I applaud you for standing up and speaking out to defend our country.  You are 'rays of hope' in what seems to be a rather bleak landscape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mr Redwood - I feel you, and many of your colleagues on the Opposition benches, have instinctively caught the fundamental nature of Britain and I applaud you for standing up and speaking out to defend our country.  You are &#8216;rays of hope&#8217; in what seems to be a rather bleak landscape.</p>
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		<title>By: &#8216;We value our freedoms&#8217; &#124; News in brief</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#8216;We value our freedoms&#8217; &#124; News in brief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] emotive and highly effective intervention from John Redwood, this time on the government’s drive to extend the limit on detention without charge or trial [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] emotive and highly effective intervention from John Redwood, this time on the government’s drive to extend the limit on detention without charge or trial [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Abdul-Rahim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdul-Rahim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is shocking is the concultation itself. Smith was never interested in what people think, simply in staving of the issue for as long as possible. Yeah, the NorthWest rejected regional government emphatically, however the government seems to keep alluding to regions as a future unit of political structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is shocking is the concultation itself. Smith was never interested in what people think, simply in staving of the issue for as long as possible. Yeah, the NorthWest rejected regional government emphatically, however the government seems to keep alluding to regions as a future unit of political structure.</p>
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		<title>By: newmania</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/01/24/the-home-secretary-does-not-know-the-meaning-of-consultation/#comment-16699</link>
		<dc:creator>newmania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you are touching on a crucial subject here which is the increasing sophistication wherby the executive uses knowledge of the electorate to  obtain nominal mandates for unpopular measures. One of these is of course returning to the subject ina variety of ways but the most insidious is the phased implimentation of change so as to present oppostion with a partial fait accompli. This has notably been employed to extend powers of the EU but ID cards  which are to be slid in via passports and Student bribes and a voluntary basis  is worse.

When do we ever get to say No? 

The misues of Consultation to provide data for representation operate viciously at alocal level as  well on CPZ`s and the like . ID cards and detention periods unite Conservative and  the weaker Liberal Libertarianism and the majority against is overwhelming. From around the time of the Poll tax the Executive ceased to put their polcies forward and began to play a complex game of multidimensional   chess with the public's opinions. The technology and experience of the private sector  have made this easier and  we are in danger of aquiring  all the freedoms of a battery chicken by this stealthy management of opposition</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you are touching on a crucial subject here which is the increasing sophistication wherby the executive uses knowledge of the electorate to  obtain nominal mandates for unpopular measures. One of these is of course returning to the subject ina variety of ways but the most insidious is the phased implimentation of change so as to present oppostion with a partial fait accompli. This has notably been employed to extend powers of the EU but ID cards  which are to be slid in via passports and Student bribes and a voluntary basis  is worse.</p>
<p>When do we ever get to say No? </p>
<p>The misues of Consultation to provide data for representation operate viciously at alocal level as  well on CPZ`s and the like . ID cards and detention periods unite Conservative and  the weaker Liberal Libertarianism and the majority against is overwhelming. From around the time of the Poll tax the Executive ceased to put their polcies forward and began to play a complex game of multidimensional   chess with the public&#8217;s opinions. The technology and experience of the private sector  have made this easier and  we are in danger of aquiring  all the freedoms of a battery chicken by this stealthy management of opposition</p>
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		<title>By: Adrian Peirson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrian Peirson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do Value our Freedoms, but as Westminster has recinded our right to bear arms, What exactly can we do.
Can you imagine Westminster behaving the way it has over the past few decades if we still had that right.

http://www.planetquo.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do Value our Freedoms, but as Westminster has recinded our right to bear arms, What exactly can we do.<br />
Can you imagine Westminster behaving the way it has over the past few decades if we still had that right.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.planetquo.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.planetquo.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: JonnyMac</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonnyMac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh lawks, I agree with John Redwood. This is a sign of impending civilisational collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh lawks, I agree with John Redwood. This is a sign of impending civilisational collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In two of the instances you mentioned, the EU is certainly to blame. The problem, i think, is that people make promises they cannot keep when out of the country. I reckon that the Iraq invasion was one, the constitution fiasco another and the regional governments and John Prescott another.
When the parliament was in charge of detention, as you say, things were much more democratic and sensible.
Am I paranoid in suspecting either Europe or the US to be behind this 42 days business - or is it a smokescreen to be used by the Government when things are going badly wrong (as Ken Clarke suggested on Question Time?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In two of the instances you mentioned, the EU is certainly to blame. The problem, i think, is that people make promises they cannot keep when out of the country. I reckon that the Iraq invasion was one, the constitution fiasco another and the regional governments and John Prescott another.<br />
When the parliament was in charge of detention, as you say, things were much more democratic and sensible.<br />
Am I paranoid in suspecting either Europe or the US to be behind this 42 days business - or is it a smokescreen to be used by the Government when things are going badly wrong (as Ken Clarke suggested on Question Time?)</p>
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		<title>By: APL</title>
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		<dc:creator>APL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"we did not see the need to turn Parliament into a fortress" 

Well said Mr Redwood. You illustrate another difference between the last Tory administration and this government. You were not afraid of the population, I think Blair was, and I fancy Brown is too.

" or to extend detention without trial in Great Britian."

Detention without trial is (in my opinion) the signiture of a totalitarian regieme.

Oh, and "Ministry of Justice", does anyone form those words in their mind and not think of Orwell?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we did not see the need to turn Parliament into a fortress&#8221; </p>
<p>Well said Mr Redwood. You illustrate another difference between the last Tory administration and this government. You were not afraid of the population, I think Blair was, and I fancy Brown is too.</p>
<p>&#8221; or to extend detention without trial in Great Britian.&#8221;</p>
<p>Detention without trial is (in my opinion) the signiture of a totalitarian regieme.</p>
<p>Oh, and &#8220;Ministry of Justice&#8221;, does anyone form those words in their mind and not think of Orwell?</p>
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 09:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said, John.  No future government of this country will ever be able to conduct a consultation without being tarnished by Labour's attitude towards them.

http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said, John.  No future government of this country will ever be able to conduct a consultation without being tarnished by Labour&#8217;s attitude towards them.</p>
<p><a href="http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow">http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com</a></p>
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