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	<title>Comments on: A worried Crewe</title>
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	<description>Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 18:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ian Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/14/a-worried-crewe/#comment-20534</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It strikes me that NuLabour are doing a bit of sleight of hand with the 10p issue.  They are trying to do 2 things with our 2.7bn - but you can only 'give' this something once. 

Firstly, they seek to compensate the poor (or 80% of the losers) for losing out from the 10p shambles - well, ok, they have done a reasonable thing there. 

Secondly, however, they are 'giving' a tax handout - but guess what, who are the losers there? Two lots, first the rich (which is ok), but also those poor who previously lost out relative to the 10p debacle!  The latter EITHER get compensation OR they get the handout but not both!  

So, by not targetting the money, NuLabour have, on the one hand, compensated the initial losers, but, on the other hand, they have then made them losers with respect to the tax rebate. You just couldn't make it up.  Surely, the problem remains!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It strikes me that NuLabour are doing a bit of sleight of hand with the 10p issue.  They are trying to do 2 things with our 2.7bn - but you can only &#8216;give&#8217; this something once. </p>
<p>Firstly, they seek to compensate the poor (or 80% of the losers) for losing out from the 10p shambles - well, ok, they have done a reasonable thing there. </p>
<p>Secondly, however, they are &#8216;giving&#8217; a tax handout - but guess what, who are the losers there? Two lots, first the rich (which is ok), but also those poor who previously lost out relative to the 10p debacle!  The latter EITHER get compensation OR they get the handout but not both!  </p>
<p>So, by not targetting the money, NuLabour have, on the one hand, compensated the initial losers, but, on the other hand, they have then made them losers with respect to the tax rebate. You just couldn&#8217;t make it up.  Surely, the problem remains!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Robson</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/14/a-worried-crewe/#comment-20494</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Robson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish the Conservatives well in the by-election. It is a strange thing  through years of  this  sinister New Labour government (some) people have still voted for them - it seems that the old adage applies that people only realise the problem when it hits them in the pocket.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish the Conservatives well in the by-election. It is a strange thing  through years of  this  sinister New Labour government (some) people have still voted for them - it seems that the old adage applies that people only realise the problem when it hits them in the pocket.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew  Reynolds</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/14/a-worried-crewe/#comment-20491</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew  Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 18:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done John ! Can we win Crewe ? In the words of the next US President : ' Yes We Can !' 

We have  a week to make the positive case for a Tory MP for Crewe &#38; Nantwich while hoping that the Labour vote falls away. Looking at the ICM poll putting us on 43% , Labour on 39% and the Lib Dems on 17% we can point out to the Lib Dems that they cannot win &#38; if they want to send the government a message then voting Tory is the way to do it . Labour's mindless campaign of class hate is  stupid. (Disparaging remarks about Conservatives left out as ed thought them grossly inaccurate)  Simply pandering to the worst instincts of a section of your core vote will not reach the wider electorate &#38; thus cause defeat. Labour have not learned from the errors of messars Hague &#38; Howard . At least we are clearly in second place &#38; led Labour by 16% in Crewe &#38; Nantwich in the local elections of a fortnight ago. That is a 16% swing compared to the 2005 general election - we only need about half that to win the seat . 

Nantwich is more Tory - rather like the outer areas of London. So if turnout is higher in Nantwich while the Labour vote stays at home in Crewe we can win . This Labour bribe is too little too late &#38; voters in this seat are more angry about Gordon Brown's failings than the Tory PPC being  pretty well off. The Lib Dems as in London are failing to make up much ground &#38; telling people that voting Lib Dem is helping Gordon Brown might be an idea !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done John ! Can we win Crewe ? In the words of the next US President : &#8216; Yes We Can !&#8217; </p>
<p>We have  a week to make the positive case for a Tory MP for Crewe &amp; Nantwich while hoping that the Labour vote falls away. Looking at the ICM poll putting us on 43% , Labour on 39% and the Lib Dems on 17% we can point out to the Lib Dems that they cannot win &amp; if they want to send the government a message then voting Tory is the way to do it . Labour&#8217;s mindless campaign of class hate is  stupid. (Disparaging remarks about Conservatives left out as ed thought them grossly inaccurate)  Simply pandering to the worst instincts of a section of your core vote will not reach the wider electorate &amp; thus cause defeat. Labour have not learned from the errors of messars Hague &amp; Howard . At least we are clearly in second place &amp; led Labour by 16% in Crewe &amp; Nantwich in the local elections of a fortnight ago. That is a 16% swing compared to the 2005 general election - we only need about half that to win the seat . </p>
<p>Nantwich is more Tory - rather like the outer areas of London. So if turnout is higher in Nantwich while the Labour vote stays at home in Crewe we can win . This Labour bribe is too little too late &amp; voters in this seat are more angry about Gordon Brown&#8217;s failings than the Tory PPC being  pretty well off. The Lib Dems as in London are failing to make up much ground &amp; telling people that voting Lib Dem is helping Gordon Brown might be an idea !</p>
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		<title>By: Simon_C</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/14/a-worried-crewe/#comment-20477</link>
		<dc:creator>Simon_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 09:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking about all this 10p and local elections the other day. 

Didn't Gordon announce the removal of the 10p before Tony decided to stand down ? Do you think there's any chance he planned for this to come to light shortly before the local elections where Tony would then have got a drubbing. Gordon would then come to the rescue with a revised budget and then take the leadership ? 

Nah, he couldn't be that Machivelion. Could he ? ....








Well, it probably isn't the case. because it would have been difficult for it to look like it was him comming to the rescue of his budget. But the alternate explanation is that he was either stupid to see what his tax change would do, or too proud to listen to the advisers telling him this is what it would do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking about all this 10p and local elections the other day. </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Gordon announce the removal of the 10p before Tony decided to stand down ? Do you think there&#8217;s any chance he planned for this to come to light shortly before the local elections where Tony would then have got a drubbing. Gordon would then come to the rescue with a revised budget and then take the leadership ? </p>
<p>Nah, he couldn&#8217;t be that Machivelion. Could he ? &#8230;.</p>
<p>Well, it probably isn&#8217;t the case. because it would have been difficult for it to look like it was him comming to the rescue of his budget. But the alternate explanation is that he was either stupid to see what his tax change would do, or too proud to listen to the advisers telling him this is what it would do.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 06:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am really impressed - let me say - with your attitude: you get stuck in, meet the people, listen to them rather than tell them, and, I think, actually like them.
It is quite obvious by now that the government despises us, doesn't like us, wants to improve us and has absolutely no idea how intelligent and clued up we are as a nation.
I think that most people can see that whenever Gordon Brown does a give away that the small print is where the claw back lies cleverly hidden.
Crewe is a place where good old Labour - the Labour of the working class and Methodist Church had a good grip. What a shame it is now all but gone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am really impressed - let me say - with your attitude: you get stuck in, meet the people, listen to them rather than tell them, and, I think, actually like them.<br />
It is quite obvious by now that the government despises us, doesn&#8217;t like us, wants to improve us and has absolutely no idea how intelligent and clued up we are as a nation.<br />
I think that most people can see that whenever Gordon Brown does a give away that the small print is where the claw back lies cleverly hidden.<br />
Crewe is a place where good old Labour - the Labour of the working class and Methodist Church had a good grip. What a shame it is now all but gone!</p>
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