Comments on: An end to dear water and water shortages? http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/16/an-end-to-dear-water-and-water-shortages/ Conservative Party Member of Parliament for Wokingham Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:02:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Ofwat recommends opening water and sewerage markets to competition - Hosepipe Ban, Water Shortage and Drought Blog http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/16/an-end-to-dear-water-and-water-shortages/#comment-21015 Ofwat recommends opening water and sewerage markets to competition - Hosepipe Ban, Water Shortage and Drought Blog Sun, 01 Jun 2008 09:41:00 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1078#comment-21015 [...] Have a look at John Redwood’s take on this. [...] [...] Have a look at John Redwood’s take on this. [...]

]]> By: Steven_L http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/16/an-end-to-dear-water-and-water-shortages/#comment-20578 Steven_L Sat, 17 May 2008 00:13:42 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1078#comment-20578 Your first points in each section sway me the most - catching rainwater (which my Grandad used to do to water his garden from the 1930's until the late 1987 when he qualified for an ex-steelworkers retirement flat having reached 80) and more jobs. I'm presuming that if we have more pipes you still favour the idea of overground pipes encased in concrete to prevent more roadworks. Telecoms definately led to massive innovation and more jobs, gas and electric definatelt led to more jobs. There is a huge potential to improve our water infastructure, especially with long distance pipelines from the water rich regions in the North of the Uk to the South, but the turning water into a commodity is a difficult political task - I would definately object to oxygen becoming privatised and water is only one step away in terms of our basic needs. Reply: Bread is a basic need, but no-one thinks we would have a better bread supply if we nationalised it. I want water pipes under pavements with access that does not require digging up the road. Your first points in each section sway me the most - catching rainwater (which my Grandad used to do to water his garden from the 1930’s until the late 1987 when he qualified for an ex-steelworkers retirement flat having reached 80) and more jobs.

I’m presuming that if we have more pipes you still favour the idea of overground pipes encased in concrete to prevent more roadworks.

Telecoms definately led to massive innovation and more jobs, gas and electric definatelt led to more jobs. There is a huge potential to improve our water infastructure, especially with long distance pipelines from the water rich regions in the North of the Uk to the South, but the turning water into a commodity is a difficult political task - I would definately object to oxygen becoming privatised and water is only one step away in terms of our basic needs.

Reply: Bread is a basic need, but no-one thinks we would have a better bread supply if we nationalised it. I want water pipes under pavements with access that does not require digging up the road.

]]> By: mikestallard http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/16/an-end-to-dear-water-and-water-shortages/#comment-20569 mikestallard Fri, 16 May 2008 15:45:41 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1078#comment-20569 I worked for Anglian Water once. Of course, they had a monopoly of all the terribly clogged up pipes (which they gradually stripped out). They also had the grid so that they could transfer water from other providers. What struck me was the fact that plastic pipes (blue for water) could be so easily laid. They only took a bit of unrolling. And, of course, this meant that they could provide all sorts of places - schools, hospitals etc - when the water was cut off. So much for the monopoly aspect. If there was a genuine choice - as there is with bottled water - people might get a much better service. I worked for Anglian Water once. Of course, they had a monopoly of all the terribly clogged up pipes (which they gradually stripped out). They also had the grid so that they could transfer water from other providers.
What struck me was the fact that plastic pipes (blue for water) could be so easily laid. They only took a bit of unrolling. And, of course, this meant that they could provide all sorts of places - schools, hospitals etc - when the water was cut off. So much for the monopoly aspect.
If there was a genuine choice - as there is with bottled water - people might get a much better service.

]]> By: Adrian Windisch http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/16/an-end-to-dear-water-and-water-shortages/#comment-20565 Adrian Windisch Fri, 16 May 2008 12:38:51 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1078#comment-20565 We've seen the water industry privatisation lead to all sorts of problems. Firstly they put profit before service, they arent interested in long term plans, reducing leaks, etc. They wont even talk to councils about reducing rats, because theres no money to be made from it. I think renationalising utilities is the answer. They have been slightly better as privatised monopolies than they were as public monopolies - we used to get cut off and rationed more often when the public sector owned them, and the water courses were dirtier. What we need is competition to be the customer's friend. We’ve seen the water industry privatisation lead to all sorts of problems. Firstly they put profit before service, they arent interested in long term plans, reducing leaks, etc. They wont even talk to councils about reducing rats, because theres no money to be made from it. I think renationalising utilities is the answer.

They have been slightly better as privatised monopolies than they were as public monopolies - we used to get cut off and rationed more often when the public sector owned them, and the water courses were dirtier. What we need is competition to be the customer’s friend.

]]> By: Adrian Peirson http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/16/an-end-to-dear-water-and-water-shortages/#comment-20564 Adrian Peirson Fri, 16 May 2008 11:39:35 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1078#comment-20564 It does appear to me that Big Government and the Global Elite are muscling in on the absolute basic necessities of life. Why should people not be encouraged (if they wish ( to take up Hunting, fishing, Collecting Rainwater. This is a very dangerous situation for us as Individuals. Look at our Fishing Industry decimated by Politicians. Look at Terminator Seeds, Currently farmers can use seeds from Last years crops to plant this years crop. Govt and the Global Elite (Bilderbergers) aim at putting an end to this. I believe you or someone has a duty to raise these issues in Parliament and warn the Public as to what is going on. http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ENG20060827&articleId=3082 http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2844.0 It does appear to me that Big Government and the Global Elite are muscling in on the absolute basic necessities of life.
Why should people not be encouraged (if they wish ( to take up Hunting, fishing, Collecting Rainwater.
This is a very dangerous situation for us as Individuals. Look at our Fishing Industry decimated by Politicians.

Look at Terminator Seeds, Currently farmers can use seeds from Last years crops to plant this years crop.

Govt and the Global Elite (Bilderbergers) aim at putting an end to this.

I believe you or someone has a duty to raise these issues in Parliament and warn the Public as to what is going on.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=ENG20060827&articleId=3082
http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=2844.0

]]> By: Peter http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/05/16/an-end-to-dear-water-and-water-shortages/#comment-20561 Peter Fri, 16 May 2008 10:18:40 +0000 http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/?p=1078#comment-20561 Would one of these new reservoirs be in the outstandingly beautiful countryside of South Oxfordshire? Won't Boris have something to say on this (or his dad if we're looking at family succession a la Crewe and Nantwich)? Would one of these new reservoirs be in the outstandingly beautiful countryside of South Oxfordshire? Won’t Boris have something to say on this (or his dad if we’re looking at family succession a la Crewe and Nantwich)?

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