We are told we MUST reduce our Carbon Emmisions, yet the Govt wants to increase our Population from 65 Million to 100 Million, which will mean more congestion, more crime, more housing shortages, more landfill problems, food security problems.

Where is the Logic, What sort of a country are these Insane Despots planning on leaving to our children.

There are TOO MANY PEOPLE in this country.

What about planting more trees,

Fewer People, More trees, what is wrong with this.

http://www.infowars.com/?p=2473

The Global Elite want to cram the country with 100 Million People and simply farm us.

It’s a New Labour dream – a mindlessly complex, impossibly expensive bureaucratic nightmare. Please bring it in – they’ll get five seats at the next election, tops.

Two more years to go. If they are coming out with stuff like this, what will it be like as the election looms and they are still 20 points behind? I think it will be “scorched earth” – they will splurge the cash on their friends in the public sector, leaving the Conservatives with a crippled economy and massive debt to deal with. After five years of lying their heads off that it is all Cameron’s fault, they win the election.

Rather like our debt based money system, the Stock exchange, the perceived wealth in houses.

And now this, Carbon Credits !.

Our Country and people need to build and trade in real products, you know, things like cars, ships, weapons if we must, electronics.
food.

Lord help us.

Car makers did produce more efficient engines (they were called lean-burn), but the catalytic-ocnverter cheerleaders were more efficient in their lobbying of the EU, so their scheme won. And unleaded petrol was then required because we were forced to have catalytic converters, not as an alternative to them.

The lead compounds poison the catalysts, you see.

Cause, effect: hard to disentangle. But concentrate on that “cui bono” bit and you can get there usually.

It amazes me that people are taken in by the tripe sprouted by Al “I Invented The Internet” Gore and his stable of sidekicks at the IPCC.

Remind anyone of the Y2K computer fraud? Only difference was that Y2K had a d-day whereas this eco-mentalist stuff is an open ended cheque to financial infinity.

Solution 1: Discourage each of the many millions of people doing any of the thousands of different things that release carbon into the air.

Solution 2: Discourage digging up carbon.

Take your pick.

For a start, the Daily Mail reported that those folk who use more than their allowance will be forced to buy ‘top-ups’, whilst those who have credit remaining – AT THE END OF THE YEAR – will be able to cash them in. This isn’t a trading scheme at all then. It sounds more like a scheme one of my employers used to run for buying and selling holidays. You could buy and sell holidays for a couple of weeks at the start of every year at a set price, there was no ‘trading’ as such, no chance to buy or sell holiday entitlement at market derived prices throughout the year. There was no opportunity for enterprising employees to buy at a time of the year when prices were low and sell on the run up to silly season at silly rates. There was no mechanism for borrowing holidays from your colleagues and shorting annual leave. We were’nt ‘trading’ holidays, we were buying and selling them. Furthermore the company never said we were ‘trading’ them.

If people are allocated a carbon allowance at the beginning of the year, have to buy extra credits from the administrator at a set price as and when they go over, and have to sell excess credits back to the administrator at a price determined by the administrator at the end of the year, then this isn’t a ‘market’.

If it could possibly be called a market then it would be a not only a monopoly, it would be a monopoly controlled by the government, like VAT or income tax is. The wealthy will manage to pay this tax, yet poor folk in northern rural areas will suffer. Where I come from in Northumberland the average salary is well under the national average let alone that of the south-east. Up north people use more heating in the winter due to the colder weather and need to drive more miles to work and back due to not having the same public transport infrastructure. There lies another question, will Londoners pay carbon credits for getting on the bus?

In the densly populated, warmer regions of the south – where public transport is often viable – they will pay less by necessity. In the colder, less renumerated and more rural north they will be forced to cough up this new ‘carbon tax’ in order to maintain their current standard of living. In both north and south the wealthy will cough up a little bit extra to pay for their expensive cars and holidays, possibly through their companies, possibly by laying off employees, perhaps reducing bonuses or maybe putting up the prices for their customers.

This new carbon tax will not benefit the poor at all, nor can it be called ‘trading’.

Now, Carbon Dioxide is actually a good thing. For a start, plants love the stuff and can barely get enough of it. I am reasonably reliably informed that if you happen to be a farmer and grow a lot of crop under glass, it pays to pump CO2 into the green house, because it promotes the growth of your crop.

So, typically politicians have got it entirely the wrong way around, BLESS. They are trying to reduce carbon dioxide when the really clever thing – for world poverty, hunger and all, – the really beneficial thing would be to increase the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere, leading to increased food crop yield cheaper food and reduced world hunger.

Since Tory type people know or should know, that incentives work better than penalties, and there is a good chance that more Carbon Dioxide would be a good thing, well its obvious isn’t it? We need tax relief for big carbon producing vehicles, the road tax for a six litre Bently, the sort Gordon Brown or the minister for the environment runs around in, the road tax for one of those ought to be £15 per year.

But sadly since the Tory party is bought and paid for by Zak Goldsmith the Enviro – mentalist, you will see people like Yeo popping up now and again to ‘test the water’.

“as the animals look from Napoleon to Pilkington, from man to pig and from pig back to man, they find that they are unable to tell the difference”

We should all just knuckle down, and pay these extra taxes – come on people, you just can’t have too much travertine, and granite costs an arm and a leg these days.

Making a new car (even if it’s a hybrid) absorbs a huge amount of energy. The concrete and brick in a new-build house are probably far worse generators of CO2 emissions than 20 years of heating it once built. Giving birth to a child has huge future impact on the environment. How do you include these things in a notional “personal allowance”?

Then there are minor issues about gifts, whether family CO2 allowances would be pooled, are shareholders entitled to a fraction of their companies’ allowances, and so on.

I’m looking forward to inventing a whole slew of “Creative CO2 Accounting” practices…..

Yet the government keeps taking on more power attempting to dominate and control me more, they want all my data and cards to prove i am a citizen, (talking) cctv everywhere and
now im going to be taxed for breathing.