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	<title>Comments on: No to Bradford and Bingley nationalisation</title>
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		<title>By: henry</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/09/28/no-to-bradford-and-bingley-nationalisation/#comment-26235</link>
		<dc:creator>henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Permettez-moi de comprendre cela, je tiens à vous remercier. Je vais toujours revenir ici</description>
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		<title>By: Eddie Allen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddie Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering B&amp;B primarily deal with the Buy to Let investors which are strictly in a mess as a result of their own actions. 
And Buy to Let repossession rates have TRIPLED in the last 12 months, and ALL deposits are backed by guarantee to £35,000, and ALL residential mortgage holders have NOT ONE THING TO WORRY ABOUT regardless who owns their DEBT. 
Then I think Gordon Blown is either seeking to sucker the nation, or he doesn&#039;t know what he&#039;s talking about. 

When it comes to taxpayers and nationalization as the only option he can see, I think its way past time he left.
By imposing this unncessary burden on the taxpayers, he is making them take on the risk of keeping this outfit open simply to avoid branch closures. The branches are no doubt full of  people, convinced that Labour will save them yet he&#039;s done an 18 month deal on that which happens just to be the time he has left in office on the outside. 

Meanwhilew, many Americans are back to living in wigwams again and despite thousands of ordinary folk have been repossessed from their homes, the US and the UK want them to pay for the recovery packages of the very people who made them homeless !!! Staggeringly unbelievable but there it is !!!
 
So how have others handled this downward spiral in finance ?
Russian premier Vladimir Putin has engaged VEB.
A business loan DIRECT to the business ( not to the bank ), and thereby securing the interests of workers and taxpayers, and its industries which otherwise banks and bailout boys would be picking off by forcing foreclosures on business loans which would otherwise land a certain amount of prizes for foreign bankers when the market returns. 

Who&#039;s looking after the interests of workers, jobs, assets, business and the economy better. Is it Putin or Brown ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering B&amp;B primarily deal with the Buy to Let investors which are strictly in a mess as a result of their own actions.<br />
And Buy to Let repossession rates have TRIPLED in the last 12 months, and ALL deposits are backed by guarantee to £35,000, and ALL residential mortgage holders have NOT ONE THING TO WORRY ABOUT regardless who owns their DEBT.<br />
Then I think Gordon Blown is either seeking to sucker the nation, or he doesn&#8217;t know what he&#8217;s talking about. </p>
<p>When it comes to taxpayers and nationalization as the only option he can see, I think its way past time he left.<br />
By imposing this unncessary burden on the taxpayers, he is making them take on the risk of keeping this outfit open simply to avoid branch closures. The branches are no doubt full of  people, convinced that Labour will save them yet he&#8217;s done an 18 month deal on that which happens just to be the time he has left in office on the outside. </p>
<p>Meanwhilew, many Americans are back to living in wigwams again and despite thousands of ordinary folk have been repossessed from their homes, the US and the UK want them to pay for the recovery packages of the very people who made them homeless !!! Staggeringly unbelievable but there it is !!!</p>
<p>So how have others handled this downward spiral in finance ?<br />
Russian premier Vladimir Putin has engaged VEB.<br />
A business loan DIRECT to the business ( not to the bank ), and thereby securing the interests of workers and taxpayers, and its industries which otherwise banks and bailout boys would be picking off by forcing foreclosures on business loans which would otherwise land a certain amount of prizes for foreign bankers when the market returns. </p>
<p>Who&#8217;s looking after the interests of workers, jobs, assets, business and the economy better. Is it Putin or Brown ?</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 07:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one thing you ought to add to all this.
Why did they suddenly start lending lots of money to people whom they knew would never repay them?
The big question is this: how much did fashionable ideas about racism, the vulnerable, the hardworking poor etc etc colour their decision both here and in USA?
This has not been answered yet.
Maybe it is time to examine our own shibboleths?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one thing you ought to add to all this.<br />
Why did they suddenly start lending lots of money to people whom they knew would never repay them?<br />
The big question is this: how much did fashionable ideas about racism, the vulnerable, the hardworking poor etc etc colour their decision both here and in USA?<br />
This has not been answered yet.<br />
Maybe it is time to examine our own shibboleths?</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was once stated that the duty of directors was to the Shareholders. This no longer seems to be the case. It seems increasingly that the duty of the directors is to themselves and themselves alone. In saying the shareholders are to blame for investing in banks that then go bust, it is surely the duty of the directors in such unheard of cases to throw themselves on their swords and not give themselves and their friends fat bonuses before retiring to sunnier climes.
This is a disgraceful situation bought on by greed, greed and yet more greed. To say Gordon Brown is responsible for the collapse  of the banking industry because he borrowed excess money is as absurd as it is devious. It was not Brown borrowing money that caused this problem it was an unholy alliance of Solicitors, Estate agents and banks selling worthless property to people who the agents knew could never afford the repayments  that bought on this situation. They even had the nerve to rewrite the work JUNK as Sub-Prime. B&amp;B was  one such typical example and full of junk. The shareholders however were not to know this. Check out the B&amp;B flow chart for dealings.. Even Alexander would never have unpicked that unholy  knot.
 
If one also wanted to call those people who took out such mortgages  idiots or irresponsible then the system was once designed to be almost idiot proof. However, the bankers greed has overridden the idiot proofing system, and bankers  prudence vanished on the altar of greed and we are all now just beginning to reap the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was once stated that the duty of directors was to the Shareholders. This no longer seems to be the case. It seems increasingly that the duty of the directors is to themselves and themselves alone. In saying the shareholders are to blame for investing in banks that then go bust, it is surely the duty of the directors in such unheard of cases to throw themselves on their swords and not give themselves and their friends fat bonuses before retiring to sunnier climes.<br />
This is a disgraceful situation bought on by greed, greed and yet more greed. To say Gordon Brown is responsible for the collapse  of the banking industry because he borrowed excess money is as absurd as it is devious. It was not Brown borrowing money that caused this problem it was an unholy alliance of Solicitors, Estate agents and banks selling worthless property to people who the agents knew could never afford the repayments  that bought on this situation. They even had the nerve to rewrite the work JUNK as Sub-Prime. B&amp;B was  one such typical example and full of junk. The shareholders however were not to know this. Check out the B&amp;B flow chart for dealings.. Even Alexander would never have unpicked that unholy  knot.</p>
<p>If one also wanted to call those people who took out such mortgages  idiots or irresponsible then the system was once designed to be almost idiot proof. However, the bankers greed has overridden the idiot proofing system, and bankers  prudence vanished on the altar of greed and we are all now just beginning to reap the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 16:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Businesses that make bad choices (and unfortunately the people that invest in those businesses) must suffer the consequences of their bad choices.  I am not a shareholder in B&amp;B and I can see no reason at all why my looted tax money should prop them up.  No more socialist nonsense please! Pretty please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Businesses that make bad choices (and unfortunately the people that invest in those businesses) must suffer the consequences of their bad choices.  I am not a shareholder in B&amp;B and I can see no reason at all why my looted tax money should prop them up.  No more socialist nonsense please! Pretty please!</p>
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		<title>By: Donald Mills</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donald Mills</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 15:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So poor Mr and Mrs save for it a rainy day have now lost what little they have and it follows the biblical adage about those who have little, that also will be taken away.
So this seems to be a truth against which the masses cannot protect  themselves. Well.I`m one of them and I can tell you it hurts like hell.!   
If the Conservative party had one ounce of decency which it seems they do not, they would be calling for those who have created this financial mess to foot the bill. 
Instead of which, silence ! , Blame Brown, Blame the Labour party, blame the workers, blame the savers but never, ever, blame the financiers. 
Maybe Australia and now Austria going right wing has the right idea, who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So poor Mr and Mrs save for it a rainy day have now lost what little they have and it follows the biblical adage about those who have little, that also will be taken away.<br />
So this seems to be a truth against which the masses cannot protect  themselves. Well.I`m one of them and I can tell you it hurts like hell.!<br />
If the Conservative party had one ounce of decency which it seems they do not, they would be calling for those who have created this financial mess to foot the bill.<br />
Instead of which, silence ! , Blame Brown, Blame the Labour party, blame the workers, blame the savers but never, ever, blame the financiers.<br />
Maybe Australia and now Austria going right wing has the right idea, who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: TimP</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 12:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks once again Mr Redwood for helping to expose the lies and deceits of this obnoxious administration.

In reply to &quot;david&quot; 28 Sept 4:31pm, this has nothing to do with demutualisation per se.  Ceasing to be a mutual did not give the management of B&amp;B carte blanche to pursue a fundamentally flawed business model.

It is very difficult to avoid &quot;Mike Gill&#039;s&quot; conclusion above that the dying days of the Brown administration is solely concerned with a scorched earth policy designed primarily to buy Brown a day or two of survival at a time, while ensuring that the incoming administration will have both hands tied behind its back for years to come (sorry about the mixed meaphors!).  It does, sadly, seem that this approach can be effective in the UK: just look at how many people still bleat about the &quot;damage&quot; caused by the Conservative administration in purging this country of the socialist mess of the 1970&#039;s!

This creeping &quot;nationalisation&quot; is fully in accord with the present administration&#039;s &quot;command and control&quot; approach to every aspect of our lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks once again Mr Redwood for helping to expose the lies and deceits of this obnoxious administration.</p>
<p>In reply to &#8220;david&#8221; 28 Sept 4:31pm, this has nothing to do with demutualisation per se.  Ceasing to be a mutual did not give the management of B&amp;B carte blanche to pursue a fundamentally flawed business model.</p>
<p>It is very difficult to avoid &#8220;Mike Gill&#8217;s&#8221; conclusion above that the dying days of the Brown administration is solely concerned with a scorched earth policy designed primarily to buy Brown a day or two of survival at a time, while ensuring that the incoming administration will have both hands tied behind its back for years to come (sorry about the mixed meaphors!).  It does, sadly, seem that this approach can be effective in the UK: just look at how many people still bleat about the &#8220;damage&#8221; caused by the Conservative administration in purging this country of the socialist mess of the 1970&#8217;s!</p>
<p>This creeping &#8220;nationalisation&#8221; is fully in accord with the present administration&#8217;s &#8220;command and control&#8221; approach to every aspect of our lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Southworth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Southworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I think you&#039;ll find that the de-mutualisation policy was supported by Mr Gordon Brown when in opposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I think you&#8217;ll find that the de-mutualisation policy was supported by Mr Gordon Brown when in opposition.</p>
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		<title>By: K Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 11:25:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The inference is that any savings people had with B &amp; B have been saved.  Not if those savings are in the form of shares!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The inference is that any savings people had with B &amp; B have been saved.  Not if those savings are in the form of shares!</p>
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		<title>By: Manfarang</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/09/28/no-to-bradford-and-bingley-nationalisation/#comment-25453</link>
		<dc:creator>Manfarang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 09:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a lot of good security in the wonky banks!</description>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/09/28/no-to-bradford-and-bingley-nationalisation/#comment-25451</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 08:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just read the article by the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Spectator. His position is this: &quot;the market&quot; is an idol. It does not exist in itself, people make it and then breathe life into it. then they worship it, as a God. 
What &quot;the market&quot; consists of is people trusting other people and lending money to other people under certain rules.
If you lend money to people who are crooks, who are broke, who aren&#039;t going to repay because they can&#039;t, or who are going to drink the money etc, then you lose your money. As soon as it ceases to be based on real personal trust, it is bound to fail.
If you say that the debt which you have created (by the loan, which may, or may not, be repaid) is actually real money, then you are misleading people and therefore cheating them.
This is not the fault of the market (which, remember does not exist). It is the fault of the cheats and  of the people who mislead and pretend.

Add in a healthy dose of Liberal Leftie guilt about race and poverty and &quot;working class aspirations&quot; and - bingo! - you have a crisis, because people lend money to people who have neither the ability nor the wish to repay. That is why the whole immoral system comes crashing down like the idol which it is.

(Last paragraph is mine, not His).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just read the article by the Archbishop of Canterbury in the Spectator. His position is this: &#8220;the market&#8221; is an idol. It does not exist in itself, people make it and then breathe life into it. then they worship it, as a God.<br />
What &#8220;the market&#8221; consists of is people trusting other people and lending money to other people under certain rules.<br />
If you lend money to people who are crooks, who are broke, who aren&#8217;t going to repay because they can&#8217;t, or who are going to drink the money etc, then you lose your money. As soon as it ceases to be based on real personal trust, it is bound to fail.<br />
If you say that the debt which you have created (by the loan, which may, or may not, be repaid) is actually real money, then you are misleading people and therefore cheating them.<br />
This is not the fault of the market (which, remember does not exist). It is the fault of the cheats and  of the people who mislead and pretend.</p>
<p>Add in a healthy dose of Liberal Leftie guilt about race and poverty and &#8220;working class aspirations&#8221; and &#8211; bingo! &#8211; you have a crisis, because people lend money to people who have neither the ability nor the wish to repay. That is why the whole immoral system comes crashing down like the idol which it is.</p>
<p>(Last paragraph is mine, not His).</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Jenner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Jenner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 07:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As usual, John Redwood is right. Personally I am convinced that Mr. Redwood and his likeminded Conservatives are in the wrong conservative party. Surely after all these years (post Margaret) of being ritually laughed at by the Conservative party leadership it is time to join UKIP and help make it a serious party of opposition.

I have an idea, that might help to create a better environment for aspiring homeowners. We could set up &quot;banks&quot; where the only people able to receive loans would need to be shareholders too. They would need to be mutually based &quot;societies&quot;, where risk was jointly held along with benefit.

Perhaps we could call them building societies... or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As usual, John Redwood is right. Personally I am convinced that Mr. Redwood and his likeminded Conservatives are in the wrong conservative party. Surely after all these years (post Margaret) of being ritually laughed at by the Conservative party leadership it is time to join UKIP and help make it a serious party of opposition.</p>
<p>I have an idea, that might help to create a better environment for aspiring homeowners. We could set up &#8220;banks&#8221; where the only people able to receive loans would need to be shareholders too. They would need to be mutually based &#8220;societies&#8221;, where risk was jointly held along with benefit.</p>
<p>Perhaps we could call them building societies&#8230; or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Manfarang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Manfarang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how would a takeover by the Bank of England be any better?
Reply: Not takeover - that gives you the liabilities - lending against good security</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how would a takeover by the Bank of England be any better?<br />
Reply: Not takeover &#8211; that gives you the liabilities &#8211; lending against good security</p>
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		<title>By: Tears for Tear 1</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tears for Tear 1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>News that Bank Santander is to buy the retail deposit base and the B and B branches seems to demonstrate just how poorly run this government is.
£20bn of retail deposits is GOLD DUST in this crisis.

Why is this government allowing them to go to a Spanish bank?

The HBOS rescue could still very easily fail, because Lloyds + HBOS are retail deposit short.

The B&amp;B retail deposit base should have been held in reserve to rescue the HBOS bail-out if needed.

Instead, this incompetent Government, has just played its best card to get the headline &quot;B and B has been sold to Santander&quot;.

The media should be reporting this, instead due to economic illiteracy and a left wing bias they parrot the government line.

This incompetence could easily tip England into the abyss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>News that Bank Santander is to buy the retail deposit base and the B and B branches seems to demonstrate just how poorly run this government is.<br />
£20bn of retail deposits is GOLD DUST in this crisis.</p>
<p>Why is this government allowing them to go to a Spanish bank?</p>
<p>The HBOS rescue could still very easily fail, because Lloyds + HBOS are retail deposit short.</p>
<p>The B&amp;B retail deposit base should have been held in reserve to rescue the HBOS bail-out if needed.</p>
<p>Instead, this incompetent Government, has just played its best card to get the headline &#8220;B and B has been sold to Santander&#8221;.</p>
<p>The media should be reporting this, instead due to economic illiteracy and a left wing bias they parrot the government line.</p>
<p>This incompetence could easily tip England into the abyss.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Denis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Denis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 23:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that the left is back in charge of Labour. In many areas - schooling, immigration, health - it had never gone away, but Blair did manage to clear a small area of SDP-style moderation around the issues of banking and business. This is now being overwhelmed and Brown is using the current spate of jitters as the excuse to move into those old &quot;commanding heights&quot;. Hence the apparently unnecessary move to take control of B and B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the left is back in charge of Labour. In many areas &#8211; schooling, immigration, health &#8211; it had never gone away, but Blair did manage to clear a small area of SDP-style moderation around the issues of banking and business. This is now being overwhelmed and Brown is using the current spate of jitters as the excuse to move into those old &#8220;commanding heights&#8221;. Hence the apparently unnecessary move to take control of B and B.</p>
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		<title>By: K Walsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Walsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was silly enough not to sell the 250 shares each my husband and I received from the B &amp; B.  I thought we should keep them as part of a nest egg, although shares fluctuate, you expect them to recover at some stage.  Obviously not, if B &amp; B is nationalised many small shareholders will lose their allocation, these are the people who can ill afford to.  At least HBOS shareholders will be issued with Lloyds shares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was silly enough not to sell the 250 shares each my husband and I received from the B &amp; B.  I thought we should keep them as part of a nest egg, although shares fluctuate, you expect them to recover at some stage.  Obviously not, if B &amp; B is nationalised many small shareholders will lose their allocation, these are the people who can ill afford to.  At least HBOS shareholders will be issued with Lloyds shares.</p>
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		<title>By: The people pushing for nationalisation and bail-outs are the ones who got us into this mess &#124; News in brief</title>
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		<dc:creator>The people pushing for nationalisation and bail-outs are the ones who got us into this mess &#124; News in brief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Redwood makes a knock-down case against the seizure of Bradford and Bingley on his blog. I mention this because he is one of the few observers who saw our present discontents coming. His [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Redwood makes a knock-down case against the seizure of Bradford and Bingley on his blog. I mention this because he is one of the few observers who saw our present discontents coming. His [...]</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/09/28/no-to-bradford-and-bingley-nationalisation/#comment-25427</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely this is the result of de-mutualisation, a disasterous policy much encouraged by the last  Conservative government. 

Once again Socialism led by by, &#039;Red George W Bush&#039; has rushed to the rescue of Capitalism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely this is the result of de-mutualisation, a disasterous policy much encouraged by the last  Conservative government. </p>
<p>Once again Socialism led by by, &#8216;Red George W Bush&#8217; has rushed to the rescue of Capitalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Curly&#8217;s Corner Shop</title>
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		<dc:creator>Curly&#8217;s Corner Shop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 13:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] John Redwood is also firmly against the idea of further nationalisation of the banks and poses so many questions about the wisdom of the decision that he will likely keep Alistair Darling and his team busy for the next fortnight. How come the government plan to announce the takeover before Monday morning and while Parliament is not sitting? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] John Redwood is also firmly against the idea of further nationalisation of the banks and poses so many questions about the wisdom of the decision that he will likely keep Alistair Darling and his team busy for the next fortnight. How come the government plan to announce the takeover before Monday morning and while Parliament is not sitting? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Neil Craig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 12:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem with keeping it going would be the probability of a run, as happened with Northern Rock. The only way to stop that would be for the government to guarantee all deposits which is not better than a takeover. I trust, however, that the nationalisation will be done on a basis that the shares are barely worth a nominal amount, which is what the market seems to think. If so the real possibility exists that the taxpayer might come out of it without a loss. This is better than what is happening in the USA where only the &quot;toxic&quot; assets end up in government hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with keeping it going would be the probability of a run, as happened with Northern Rock. The only way to stop that would be for the government to guarantee all deposits which is not better than a takeover. I trust, however, that the nationalisation will be done on a basis that the shares are barely worth a nominal amount, which is what the market seems to think. If so the real possibility exists that the taxpayer might come out of it without a loss. This is better than what is happening in the USA where only the &#8220;toxic&#8221; assets end up in government hands.</p>
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