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	<title>Comments on: Some more arrests for our government controlled state?</title>
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		<title>By: Obituary; British Freedom&#8211;What&#8217;s that they say;Should a dangerous group enter Westminster&#8212;They did in 1997! &#171; uk1884</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28580</link>
		<dc:creator>Obituary; British Freedom&#8211;What&#8217;s that they say;Should a dangerous group enter Westminster&#8212;They did in 1997! &#171; uk1884</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This, of course, completely ignores the fact that NOBODY was investigated or arrested for the leaks to Robert Peston which, upon their release, so strongly affected the Stock Market. Or the rampant leaking of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This, of course, completely ignores the fact that NOBODY was investigated or arrested for the leaks to Robert Peston which, upon their release, so strongly affected the Stock Market. Or the rampant leaking of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Obituary; British Freedom&#8230; &#171; Centurean2&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28578</link>
		<dc:creator>Obituary; British Freedom&#8230; &#171; Centurean2&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 12:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This, of course, completely ignores the fact that NOBODY was investigated or arrested for the leaks to Robert Peston which, upon their release, so strongly affected the Stock Market. Or the rampant leaking of the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This, of course, completely ignores the fact that NOBODY was investigated or arrested for the leaks to Robert Peston which, upon their release, so strongly affected the Stock Market. Or the rampant leaking of the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Not an Economist</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28392</link>
		<dc:creator>Not an Economist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 08:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that. What you say does make me wonder if this is more a case of gross incompetence on the part of the govt ministers &quot;involved&quot; (or not as the case may be!). Labour is increasingly giving the impression that they haven&#039;t got a clue how to manage their departments/run a govt (from a technical point of view - i.e., ignoring the adequacy of their actual policies).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that. What you say does make me wonder if this is more a case of gross incompetence on the part of the govt ministers &#8220;involved&#8221; (or not as the case may be!). Labour is increasingly giving the impression that they haven&#8217;t got a clue how to manage their departments/run a govt (from a technical point of view &#8211; i.e., ignoring the adequacy of their actual policies).</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Martin-Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28381</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Martin-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 00:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the  leakers who infest our streets and byways 
outside or near pubs were pursued with the assiduity visited upon Damian Green, our neighbourhoods would be much cleaner and more salubrious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the  leakers who infest our streets and byways<br />
outside or near pubs were pursued with the assiduity visited upon Damian Green, our neighbourhoods would be much cleaner and more salubrious!</p>
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		<title>By: jim@work</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28303</link>
		<dc:creator>jim@work</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now HMG has control of a major lending bank, look for politically-motivated lending policies which aren&#039;t commercially motivated. I think we can all imagine where this is leading.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now HMG has control of a major lending bank, look for politically-motivated lending policies which aren&#8217;t commercially motivated. I think we can all imagine where this is leading&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: jean baker</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28294</link>
		<dc:creator>jean baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It because the Opposition is increasingly showing it&#039;s &#039;mettle&#039; that Damien was victimized.   Usual two day gap between &#039;Opposition&#039; success and public reprisal.  

Like all corrupt regimes, the instigators always get others to do their &#039;dirty work&#039; hence Brown&#039;s increasing &#039;imbecilic smirks&#039;.

British &#039;journalism&#039; is the laughing stock of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It because the Opposition is increasingly showing it&#8217;s &#8216;mettle&#8217; that Damien was victimized.   Usual two day gap between &#8216;Opposition&#8217; success and public reprisal.  </p>
<p>Like all corrupt regimes, the instigators always get others to do their &#8216;dirty work&#8217; hence Brown&#8217;s increasing &#8216;imbecilic smirks&#8217;.</p>
<p>British &#8216;journalism&#8217; is the laughing stock of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28273</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 06:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great idea!  I would be rather amused to see Robert Peston and Nick Robinson dragged away to the cells (which incidentally, if this thing plays out to the nightmare conclusion is exactly what will happen ~ the revolution always eats its children).

I&#039;m guessing the BBC wouldn&#039;t be quite so sanguine about that</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great idea!  I would be rather amused to see Robert Peston and Nick Robinson dragged away to the cells (which incidentally, if this thing plays out to the nightmare conclusion is exactly what will happen ~ the revolution always eats its children).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m guessing the BBC wouldn&#8217;t be quite so sanguine about that</p>
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		<title>By: rugfish</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28251</link>
		<dc:creator>rugfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BBC has just interviewed Keith Vaz about the arrest of Damian Green.
Heaven knows the relevance of Keith Vaz&#039;s opinion in this matter and despite the BBC putting itself out as a news broadcaster it has still not to my knowledge tackled a minister about it.

Where is Jacqui Smith, Jack Straw et al or people from the Home Office ???

He also dodged the question altogether by saying it&#039;s a police matter and to await the outcome of their &quot;enquiries&quot;, and he then went skating off into &quot;And the British government should offer its full support to India&quot; ????

The man is a nonsense and the BBC are just as daft for airing an interview with him.

Are there any opposition politicians actually left in the country who are known to the BBC I wonder, and is it just me who sees this total biased broadcasting machine as requiring overhaul ???

Also, the person who ordered the arrest of Damian Green under anti-terror laws should be SACKED unless there is evidence of suspicion or an act of terror and the government minister in charge of this disgrace to our democratic freedoms should have her knitting taken away and ordered to clear her desk.

Reply:
I wish to make it clear that our principal spokesman on these matters, Dominic Grieve, put out a detailed and hard hitting press release about this yeasterday and is available for interview should the BBC wish. Many other Conservative MPs including myself are working despite Parliament yet again being closed down, and are by our phones should the BBC wish to talk to us. We have plenty to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBC has just interviewed Keith Vaz about the arrest of Damian Green.<br />
Heaven knows the relevance of Keith Vaz&#8217;s opinion in this matter and despite the BBC putting itself out as a news broadcaster it has still not to my knowledge tackled a minister about it.</p>
<p>Where is Jacqui Smith, Jack Straw et al or people from the Home Office ???</p>
<p>He also dodged the question altogether by saying it&#8217;s a police matter and to await the outcome of their &#8220;enquiries&#8221;, and he then went skating off into &#8220;And the British government should offer its full support to India&#8221; ????</p>
<p>The man is a nonsense and the BBC are just as daft for airing an interview with him.</p>
<p>Are there any opposition politicians actually left in the country who are known to the BBC I wonder, and is it just me who sees this total biased broadcasting machine as requiring overhaul ???</p>
<p>Also, the person who ordered the arrest of Damian Green under anti-terror laws should be SACKED unless there is evidence of suspicion or an act of terror and the government minister in charge of this disgrace to our democratic freedoms should have her knitting taken away and ordered to clear her desk.</p>
<p>Reply:<br />
I wish to make it clear that our principal spokesman on these matters, Dominic Grieve, put out a detailed and hard hitting press release about this yeasterday and is available for interview should the BBC wish. Many other Conservative MPs including myself are working despite Parliament yet again being closed down, and are by our phones should the BBC wish to talk to us. We have plenty to say.</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 17:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Election dodging

Economy destroying

Democracy abolishing

Oppositon arresting

Somebody else-a-blaming

MUGABE Brown the worst PM in UK history and his Zanu Labour traitors.

He better claim he knows nothing about it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Election dodging</p>
<p>Economy destroying</p>
<p>Democracy abolishing</p>
<p>Oppositon arresting</p>
<p>Somebody else-a-blaming</p>
<p>MUGABE Brown the worst PM in UK history and his Zanu Labour traitors.</p>
<p>He better claim he knows nothing about it</p>
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		<title>By: james barr</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28241</link>
		<dc:creator>james barr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Labour are guilty of many things which I disagree with. But four stand out:

1. Their trashing of the economy.
2. Their relegation of parliament to that of a mere rubber stamp.
3. Their debasing of the political process through the use of spin.
4. Their politicising of the civil service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Labour are guilty of many things which I disagree with. But four stand out:</p>
<p>1. Their trashing of the economy.<br />
2. Their relegation of parliament to that of a mere rubber stamp.<br />
3. Their debasing of the political process through the use of spin.<br />
4. Their politicising of the civil service.</p>
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		<title>By: APL</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28238</link>
		<dc:creator>APL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not an economist: &quot;But this Telegraph suggestion that the Tory leadership may respond in this way seems incredible to me.&quot;

The Tory party is spineless, never stands up for conservative principles and for this reason is a completely impotent force in British politics.

Heath, Major were nothing less than the blue tinged wing of the Labour movement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not an economist: &#8220;But this Telegraph suggestion that the Tory leadership may respond in this way seems incredible to me.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Tory party is spineless, never stands up for conservative principles and for this reason is a completely impotent force in British politics.</p>
<p>Heath, Major were nothing less than the blue tinged wing of the Labour movement.</p>
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		<title>By: Ex Civil Servant</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28236</link>
		<dc:creator>Ex Civil Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is absolutely inconceivable that the Home Office would not have been aware of Damien Green&#039;s impending request. The Met would have had to notify them prior to contacting the Mayor of London, the Speaker, the Sergeant at Arms and the Leader of the Opposition, as any one of these could on receipt of the call contacted the Home Office/Home Secretary. 

Given the extremely politically sensitive acts of arresting an Opposition spokesman and searching his office in the House of Commons, the Home Office would have need to been aware of an briefed on the arrest, so that Ministers could respond to questions. Given the &#039;news management&#039; that still occurs on a daily basis by Whitehall departments, a senior civil servant may even have suggested that any such arrest occurred after Parliament had risen. 

The events seem even more incredible in light of a Judge throwing out the case against Sally Murrer (see link) on the grounds that it infringed her human rights - what about Mr Green&#039;s? Given this was a high profile case that the Home Office and Ministry of Justice were monitoring, as it involved the police officer who recorded prison conversations between a Labour MP and one of his constituents, Damien&#039;s arrest seems even more sensitive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absolutely inconceivable that the Home Office would not have been aware of Damien Green&#8217;s impending request. The Met would have had to notify them prior to contacting the Mayor of London, the Speaker, the Sergeant at Arms and the Leader of the Opposition, as any one of these could on receipt of the call contacted the Home Office/Home Secretary. </p>
<p>Given the extremely politically sensitive acts of arresting an Opposition spokesman and searching his office in the House of Commons, the Home Office would have need to been aware of an briefed on the arrest, so that Ministers could respond to questions. Given the &#8216;news management&#8217; that still occurs on a daily basis by Whitehall departments, a senior civil servant may even have suggested that any such arrest occurred after Parliament had risen. </p>
<p>The events seem even more incredible in light of a Judge throwing out the case against Sally Murrer (see link) on the grounds that it infringed her human rights &#8211; what about Mr Green&#8217;s? Given this was a high profile case that the Home Office and Ministry of Justice were monitoring, as it involved the police officer who recorded prison conversations between a Labour MP and one of his constituents, Damien&#8217;s arrest seems even more sensitive!</p>
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		<title>By: figurewizard</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28220</link>
		<dc:creator>figurewizard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The action against Damien Green yesterday is undoubtedly a grave error by senior members of this government. It is inconceivable however that the police would choose to get involved in such a matter without clearance at a ministerial level at the very least; so why would such a desperate move be sanctioned? Is it possible that there is something very unpleasant lurking in the Downing Street undergrowth that, if it were to be revealed would cause terminal damage to Gordon Brown&#039;s carefully crafted new image as a safe pair of hands for the financial crisis we are all facing and was yesterday&#039;s arrest meant as a warning to any other potential whistle blowers? One wonders what this could be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The action against Damien Green yesterday is undoubtedly a grave error by senior members of this government. It is inconceivable however that the police would choose to get involved in such a matter without clearance at a ministerial level at the very least; so why would such a desperate move be sanctioned? Is it possible that there is something very unpleasant lurking in the Downing Street undergrowth that, if it were to be revealed would cause terminal damage to Gordon Brown&#8217;s carefully crafted new image as a safe pair of hands for the financial crisis we are all facing and was yesterday&#8217;s arrest meant as a warning to any other potential whistle blowers? One wonders what this could be.</p>
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		<title>By: Worth a look: six political articles we like on Damian Green, the economy and David Miliband&#160;&#124;&#160;Okuyan Kampüs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worth a look: six political articles we like on Damian Green, the economy and David Miliband&#160;&#124;&#160;Okuyan Kampüs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his blog, John Redwood says that some of the most active leakers are ministers [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A strange thing happened overnight....I went to bed in England, you know that green and pleasant land where democracy governs and the people are free, and then, I woke up in Zimbabwe....Well I think it is Zimbabwe anyway...You know the place where opposition politicianc are arrested by the state for telling the truth!!

A very sad day for Britain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A strange thing happened overnight&#8230;.I went to bed in England, you know that green and pleasant land where democracy governs and the people are free, and then, I woke up in Zimbabwe&#8230;.Well I think it is Zimbabwe anyway&#8230;You know the place where opposition politicianc are arrested by the state for telling the truth!!</p>
<p>A very sad day for Britain.</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:05:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are the Conservative leadership going to hold the Speaker to account.
To allow the police to rifle though the contents of an MP&#039;s office is an absolute disgrace. 
How can any of Mr Green&#039;s constituents have confidence that their correspondence with their MP will not have been seized or copied in this overtly political act by the Met? 

Will the Conservatives urgently take action to highlight and try to reverse the ever more pervasive use of &#039;anti-terror&#039; and &#039;surveillance&#039; legislation in the UK. This raid using &#039;anti-terror&#039; police implicates the Home Office in this action, given the integration of Home Office security/anti-terror officials and the Met&#039;s anti-terror operations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the Conservative leadership going to hold the Speaker to account.<br />
To allow the police to rifle though the contents of an MP&#8217;s office is an absolute disgrace.<br />
How can any of Mr Green&#8217;s constituents have confidence that their correspondence with their MP will not have been seized or copied in this overtly political act by the Met? </p>
<p>Will the Conservatives urgently take action to highlight and try to reverse the ever more pervasive use of &#8216;anti-terror&#8217; and &#8217;surveillance&#8217; legislation in the UK. This raid using &#8216;anti-terror&#8217; police implicates the Home Office in this action, given the integration of Home Office security/anti-terror officials and the Met&#8217;s anti-terror operations.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28214</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Gestapo is alive and doing well under the idiot Brown. No wonder his ratings are going down again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Gestapo is alive and doing well under the idiot Brown. No wonder his ratings are going down again.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisA</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28213</link>
		<dc:creator>DennisA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We already have the Ministry of Justice, how long before the remaing partition of the Home Office becomes the Ministry of the Interior?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We already have the Ministry of Justice, how long before the remaing partition of the Home Office becomes the Ministry of the Interior?</p>
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		<title>By: Kay Tie</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2008/11/28/some-more-arrests-for-our-government-controlled-state/#comment-28211</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Tie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was watching King Charles&#039; men arrest MPs in the Devil&#039;s Whore last night on telly. No, hang on, that was last week. Last night it was Sky News and Gordon Brown, not King Charles. Silly me.

Can anyone point me to the local New Model Army recruitment centre?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching King Charles&#8217; men arrest MPs in the Devil&#8217;s Whore last night on telly. No, hang on, that was last week. Last night it was Sky News and Gordon Brown, not King Charles. Silly me.</p>
<p>Can anyone point me to the local New Model Army recruitment centre?</p>
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		<title>By: Bob M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 10:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too right there whitey boy!!</description>
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