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	<title>Comments on: The Green shoots Baroness is a disaster for what she does more than for what she says</title>
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		<title>By: brian kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When she used the derogatory term &#039;grannies&#039; re Railtrack you must remember that these are the sort of terms which earn her browny points within that group in which she circulates - that close knit circle round Brown who regard themselves as whizz kids who have suddenly found they are actually in charge and can, with growing impunity, play as with a toy, with the destiny of this country, In actual fact they are a set of amateurish incompetents with not a breath of experience between them of the real world and they are laying on this country endless misery and indebtedness as a result of their endless incompetent experiments and failings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When she used the derogatory term &#8216;grannies&#8217; re Railtrack you must remember that these are the sort of terms which earn her browny points within that group in which she circulates &#8211; that close knit circle round Brown who regard themselves as whizz kids who have suddenly found they are actually in charge and can, with growing impunity, play as with a toy, with the destiny of this country, In actual fact they are a set of amateurish incompetents with not a breath of experience between them of the real world and they are laying on this country endless misery and indebtedness as a result of their endless incompetent experiments and failings.</p>
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		<title>By: brian kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator>brian kelly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She is of a typical cast of those whom Brown has always surrounded himself.  a complete apparatchik; totally subservient and mediocre. Can we ever forget the dreadful crew he surrounded himself with at the Treasury?  They will only do his bidding.  He will never tolerate for long working with anyone who has the intelligence to argue back and the strength of mind to do so.  This country is in a terrible mess and each day that passes the problem becomes worse and more complicated -  he loves complication and believes the more he sloshes billions around the more he will be seen as &#039;doing something&#039; whereas he is mostly digging the hole deeper for this country to extricate itself.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She is of a typical cast of those whom Brown has always surrounded himself.  a complete apparatchik; totally subservient and mediocre. Can we ever forget the dreadful crew he surrounded himself with at the Treasury?  They will only do his bidding.  He will never tolerate for long working with anyone who has the intelligence to argue back and the strength of mind to do so.  This country is in a terrible mess and each day that passes the problem becomes worse and more complicated &#8211;  he loves complication and believes the more he sloshes billions around the more he will be seen as &#8216;doing something&#8217; whereas he is mostly digging the hole deeper for this country to extricate itself.<br />
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		<title>By: Thatcher-right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thatcher-right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 01:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we&#039;re far off agreeing on this. Certainly, the recession was coming but they might have kept the plates spinning for a little while longer if they hadn&#039;t suffered a sudden crissis in confidence in the dubious loans they had been trading as super safe assets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re far off agreeing on this. Certainly, the recession was coming but they might have kept the plates spinning for a little while longer if they hadn&#8217;t suffered a sudden crissis in confidence in the dubious loans they had been trading as super safe assets.</p>
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		<title>By: Waramess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waramess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am one of those that could advise Gordon Brown as to precisely what he needs to do as Prime Minister:

RESIGN NOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am one of those that could advise Gordon Brown as to precisely what he needs to do as Prime Minister:</p>
<p>RESIGN NOW!</p>
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		<title>By: Donitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I must agree Hugh Hendry is a top chap and an excellent Hedge Fund manager.

I too heard him mention in an interview that he was investing in Bonds but I truly thought this was for the benefit of the BBC(Business Daily interview - radio).

I think he was actually taking the &quot;mick&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I must agree Hugh Hendry is a top chap and an excellent Hedge Fund manager.</p>
<p>I too heard him mention in an interview that he was investing in Bonds but I truly thought this was for the benefit of the BBC(Business Daily interview &#8211; radio).</p>
<p>I think he was actually taking the &#8220;mick&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Johns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bernard Johns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 06:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The bigger damage the Baroness is doing lies in her behind&quot;

Sorry to lower the tone, John, 
but this just got me laughing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The bigger damage the Baroness is doing lies in her behind&#8221;</p>
<p>Sorry to lower the tone, John,<br />
but this just got me laughing.</p>
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		<title>By: APL</title>
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		<dc:creator>APL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 23:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&quot;

Yes, that is pretty much what I have thought. But perhaps not just yet. Hugh Hendry has a pretty solid record. As usual, it&#039;s all about timing.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=994367935</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;BANG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Yes, that is pretty much what I have thought. But perhaps not just yet. Hugh Hendry has a pretty solid record. As usual, it&#8217;s all about timing.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=994367935" rel="nofollow">http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?video=994367935</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stewart Knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stewart Knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The recession was not triggered by the credit crunch; the recession was coming regardless and some, many, had warned of it for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The recession was not triggered by the credit crunch; the recession was coming regardless and some, many, had warned of it for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Baroness Bailout on the line for you&#8230; &#124; News in brief</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/15/the-green-shoots-baroness-is-a-disaster-for-what-she-does-more-than-for-what-she-says/#comment-30681</link>
		<dc:creator>Baroness Bailout on the line for you&#8230; &#124; News in brief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Redwood has taken aim at Baroness Vadera and her passion for nationalisation on his blog. It is certainly true that after Railtrack, Northern Rock and RBS, if you were a boss of a firm [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Redwood has taken aim at Baroness Vadera and her passion for nationalisation on his blog. It is certainly true that after Railtrack, Northern Rock and RBS, if you were a boss of a firm [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Acorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Acorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with both above.  The planet is going to be flooded with government paper (IOUs).  Government &quot;interventions&quot; in market systems always create distortions  in those markets which take time to be absorbed and create uncertainties.  Markets go into defensive mode, waiting for the next government shoe to drop.

The really worrying bit is where governments start getting involved in the long term debt markets.  Such as buying up long term toxic securities like mortgaged backed bonds.  This will put the taxpayer at a long term risk and create a nasty hangover for years ahead which the markets will not forget.  Better to let them die naturally and take the pain now.

A better explanation at 

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/merk/2009/0113.html 

Good piece at the following, on money supply.  Notice in the notes, number 4. 

http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/dollardaze/2009/0112.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with both above.  The planet is going to be flooded with government paper (IOUs).  Government &#8220;interventions&#8221; in market systems always create distortions  in those markets which take time to be absorbed and create uncertainties.  Markets go into defensive mode, waiting for the next government shoe to drop.</p>
<p>The really worrying bit is where governments start getting involved in the long term debt markets.  Such as buying up long term toxic securities like mortgaged backed bonds.  This will put the taxpayer at a long term risk and create a nasty hangover for years ahead which the markets will not forget.  Better to let them die naturally and take the pain now.</p>
<p>A better explanation at </p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/merk/2009/0113.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/merk/2009/0113.html</a> </p>
<p>Good piece at the following, on money supply.  Notice in the notes, number 4. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/dollardaze/2009/0112.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/dollardaze/2009/0112.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: StevenL</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevenL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 18:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t stand her, I think she lacks both the knowledge and the intellect to carry out her remit.

As for the excuse she was talking about the corporate bond market, the only reason speculative investors are buying up cheap corporate bonds is because they are betting on people like her bailing out certain industries if they go under.

Never forget she was Gordon Brown&#039;s Treasury advisor with a remit for &#039;city issues&#039; from 1999 to 2007.  Perhaps someone should make a FOI Act request and find out exactly what she advised the PM during this time?

I suspect she has been the main driver in government of the response to the credit crunch.  Darling as good as admitted in his Guardian interview he didn&#039;t have a clue what was going on and he was supposed to be Chancellor.

She has been part of the Downing Street bunker for a long time now and from what I have heard on the grapevine was Brown&#039;s favourite Civil Servant.  &#039;Freddie&#039; suggested above:

&quot;Among those with whom she has had dealings, her reputation is, um, not sure how to put this in a civilised environment such as this blog …&quot;

This echoes exactly what I&#039;ve heard about her too.  However,  more importantly, like JR says, everything she has done has been a disaster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t stand her, I think she lacks both the knowledge and the intellect to carry out her remit.</p>
<p>As for the excuse she was talking about the corporate bond market, the only reason speculative investors are buying up cheap corporate bonds is because they are betting on people like her bailing out certain industries if they go under.</p>
<p>Never forget she was Gordon Brown&#8217;s Treasury advisor with a remit for &#8216;city issues&#8217; from 1999 to 2007.  Perhaps someone should make a FOI Act request and find out exactly what she advised the PM during this time?</p>
<p>I suspect she has been the main driver in government of the response to the credit crunch.  Darling as good as admitted in his Guardian interview he didn&#8217;t have a clue what was going on and he was supposed to be Chancellor.</p>
<p>She has been part of the Downing Street bunker for a long time now and from what I have heard on the grapevine was Brown&#8217;s favourite Civil Servant.  &#8216;Freddie&#8217; suggested above:</p>
<p>&#8220;Among those with whom she has had dealings, her reputation is, um, not sure how to put this in a civilised environment such as this blog …&#8221;</p>
<p>This echoes exactly what I&#8217;ve heard about her too.  However,  more importantly, like JR says, everything she has done has been a disaster.</p>
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		<title>By: Satnam Singh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Satnam Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>She makes an ideal partner for Brown, after all he has the Jonah touch, the latest example is visiting Media Wales and shaking hands with the MD. Four days later the MD gets the sack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She makes an ideal partner for Brown, after all he has the Jonah touch, the latest example is visiting Media Wales and shaking hands with the MD. Four days later the MD gets the sack.</p>
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		<title>By: rugfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>rugfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d just like to know why we have non-elected officials speaking on behalf of the government about our economy, and what &quot;this lady&quot; has accomplished in her life to be made a life peer, Baroness with title, a fat pay cheque and all the frills that go with it, when there are approximately 60 million other people in the country from which there are many many millions who could advise Gordon Brown as to precisely what he needs to do as a Prime Minister who appears to dedicate much of his own time to telling the rest of us how good and perfect HE is at running the economy.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to know why we have non-elected officials speaking on behalf of the government about our economy, and what &#8220;this lady&#8221; has accomplished in her life to be made a life peer, Baroness with title, a fat pay cheque and all the frills that go with it, when there are approximately 60 million other people in the country from which there are many many millions who could advise Gordon Brown as to precisely what he needs to do as a Prime Minister who appears to dedicate much of his own time to telling the rest of us how good and perfect HE is at running the economy.</p>
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		<title>By: Waramess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Waramess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt that the problems have just started; with companies starting to go bust unemployment will increase, people will be unable to pay their mortgages (amongst other things) and so on. So definitely no green shoots.

She says she was talking about the bond market, but that is a bubble waiting to burst, so no green shoots there either.

What does puzzles me is that in a fractional reserve banking system, because it is impossible for banks to honour their withdrawal commitments to depositors, it is incumbent on the Central Bank to provide liquidity.

In the case of Northern Rock that is exactly what happened. So where was the Central Bank. 

Brown says the business model was flawed (insolvency) but, even if he knew what a business model was, how would he know at that point, and if he did know in advance, why did they not do something about it earlier?

What we now appear to have is banks happily taking one, two and three month deposits from business customers, without the capacity to honour their obligations to repay and no Central Bank behind them to provide liquidity where necessary.

Sounds like fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt that the problems have just started; with companies starting to go bust unemployment will increase, people will be unable to pay their mortgages (amongst other things) and so on. So definitely no green shoots.</p>
<p>She says she was talking about the bond market, but that is a bubble waiting to burst, so no green shoots there either.</p>
<p>What does puzzles me is that in a fractional reserve banking system, because it is impossible for banks to honour their withdrawal commitments to depositors, it is incumbent on the Central Bank to provide liquidity.</p>
<p>In the case of Northern Rock that is exactly what happened. So where was the Central Bank. </p>
<p>Brown says the business model was flawed (insolvency) but, even if he knew what a business model was, how would he know at that point, and if he did know in advance, why did they not do something about it earlier?</p>
<p>What we now appear to have is banks happily taking one, two and three month deposits from business customers, without the capacity to honour their obligations to repay and no Central Bank behind them to provide liquidity where necessary.</p>
<p>Sounds like fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:38:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It wasn&#039;t totally clear from your piece, so if I might just clarify your position, you don&#039;t think a lot of her then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t totally clear from your piece, so if I might just clarify your position, you don&#8217;t think a lot of her then?</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the recommendation, I would like to go on record as saying Donitz has a fine and manly head of hair with no suggestion of alopecia.

At all.

Its just the forehead getting a bit high these days.

And wide.  

But regardless of this, he&#039;s dead right on the bonds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recommendation, I would like to go on record as saying Donitz has a fine and manly head of hair with no suggestion of alopecia.</p>
<p>At all.</p>
<p>Its just the forehead getting a bit high these days.</p>
<p>And wide.  </p>
<p>But regardless of this, he&#8217;s dead right on the bonds.</p>
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		<title>By: David H</title>
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		<dc:creator>David H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John
Spot on as usual!
As an Engineer, I can say that we used to call the reverese Midas touch the `Tish Touch&#039;!  Everything she touches turns to ****. It doesn&#039;t take much to work out the anagram.
Same old, same old Labour</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John<br />
Spot on as usual!<br />
As an Engineer, I can say that we used to call the reverese Midas touch the `Tish Touch&#8217;!  Everything she touches turns to ****. It doesn&#8217;t take much to work out the anagram.<br />
Same old, same old Labour</p>
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		<title>By: Freddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 14:27:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sredni Vashtar&#039;s main qualification for her current position is that she has spent the last decade as one of Gordon Brown&#039;s right hands (the other being the execrable Ed Balls). These two were the ones charging around implementing all Brown&#039;s daft ideas. 

Among those with whom she has had dealings, her reputation is, um, not sure how to put this in a civilised environment such as this blog ...

Unlike Balls, she had the good sense to recognise that being a Labout MP was not a good long-term prospect, so got a peerage when Gordon was in a poistion to dosh them out.


(And in terms of destruction of tax-payer value, do have a look into the lunacy of the privatisation of London Underground, another of her little projects.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sredni Vashtar&#8217;s main qualification for her current position is that she has spent the last decade as one of Gordon Brown&#8217;s right hands (the other being the execrable Ed Balls). These two were the ones charging around implementing all Brown&#8217;s daft ideas. </p>
<p>Among those with whom she has had dealings, her reputation is, um, not sure how to put this in a civilised environment such as this blog &#8230;</p>
<p>Unlike Balls, she had the good sense to recognise that being a Labout MP was not a good long-term prospect, so got a peerage when Gordon was in a poistion to dosh them out.</p>
<p>(And in terms of destruction of tax-payer value, do have a look into the lunacy of the privatisation of London Underground, another of her little projects.)</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/15/the-green-shoots-baroness-is-a-disaster-for-what-she-does-more-than-for-what-she-says/#comment-30656</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 13:50:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few months ago Osborne was being criticised for being negative about the pound.
Since then the news media has gone into doom monger mode, and now a Labourite is getting criticised for trying to be positive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few months ago Osborne was being criticised for being negative about the pound.<br />
Since then the news media has gone into doom monger mode, and now a Labourite is getting criticised for trying to be positive.</p>
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		<title>By: Thatcher-right</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thatcher-right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 12:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Setting aside the political madness of the &quot;Green shoots of recovery&quot; statement, does anybody think it&#039;s actually true?

My view  is that, while the banks, central banks and governments are starting to stabilise the credit  markets, the recession that has been triggered by the credit crunch is only just starting to kick in.

Reply: Exactly. Some improvement in credit markets, moving from 10 feet of ice to nine feet, is  not about to swing the economy round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Setting aside the political madness of the &#8220;Green shoots of recovery&#8221; statement, does anybody think it&#8217;s actually true?</p>
<p>My view  is that, while the banks, central banks and governments are starting to stabilise the credit  markets, the recession that has been triggered by the credit crunch is only just starting to kick in.</p>
<p>Reply: Exactly. Some improvement in credit markets, moving from 10 feet of ice to nine feet, is  not about to swing the economy round.</p>
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