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		<title>By: coffee</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/21/great-day-on-penn-avenue-bad-day-at-guantanamo/#comment-31441</link>
		<dc:creator>coffee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 01:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks to me like Barack is off to a great start, on track to keep his word and restore some international credibility for the US</description>
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		<title>By: Demo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Can Obama really deliver on his Guantánamo pledge?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demo &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Can Obama really deliver on his Guantánamo pledge?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 11:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I felt let down not by the words, nor by the event, but by the actions. If he is serious about closing Guant&#225;namo, why doesn&#8217;t he just announce a date or process for closure? Guant&#225;namo became a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Von Spreuth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Von Spreuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 10:27:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those in Guantanamo SHOULD be tried. Under the civvy system. Because if they are guilty we need to know, and if not without a trial they can not be compensated for having lost &quot;X&quot; amount of years of their lives.

Von Brandenburg-Preußen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those in Guantanamo SHOULD be tried. Under the civvy system. Because if they are guilty we need to know, and if not without a trial they can not be compensated for having lost &#8220;X&#8221; amount of years of their lives.</p>
<p>Von Brandenburg-Preußen</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here you go john. he&#039;s set a date to close it.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/obama_inauguration/7843864.stm

i&#039;m suprised that you are so quick to criticise, on this issue, someone who actually managed to vote against the iraq war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here you go john. he&#8217;s set a date to close it.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/obama_inauguration/7843864.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/obama_inauguration/7843864.stm</a></p>
<p>i&#8217;m suprised that you are so quick to criticise, on this issue, someone who actually managed to vote against the iraq war.</p>
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		<title>By: Can Obama really deliver on his Guantánamo pledge? &#124; Latest News World News Today</title>
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		<dc:creator>Can Obama really deliver on his Guantánamo pledge? &#124; Latest News World News Today</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I felt let down not by the words, nor by the event, but by the actions. If he is serious about closing Guantánamo, why doesn&#8217;t he just announce a date or process for closure? Guantánamo became a symbol of a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: John Redwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Redwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it is too difficult moving to civilian trials then the President should let the military trials go ahead. These men deserve their day in court, so they can be punished if they are terrorists and let out if not. Can&#039;t you see the importance of this in a democratic society?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it is too difficult moving to civilian trials then the President should let the military trials go ahead. These men deserve their day in court, so they can be punished if they are terrorists and let out if not. Can&#8217;t you see the importance of this in a democratic society?</p>
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		<title>By: John Redwood</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Redwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Between them they stumbled. My post says I do not regard this as a problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between them they stumbled. My post says I do not regard this as a problem!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too would have appreciated it, if Mr Obama&#039;s  remarks on the war of independence were tempered by a thank you to UK for standing by as a steadfast friend of the USA during its “War on terror”.

 It would have been a marvellous platform, given the vast  US and worldwide audience,  to give thanks to our servicemen and women who have given their lives in these conflicts and who continue to serve.

If successive US administrations had stood by the UK to the same degree, maybe our   problems in Northern Ireland would have been alleviated sooner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too would have appreciated it, if Mr Obama&#8217;s  remarks on the war of independence were tempered by a thank you to UK for standing by as a steadfast friend of the USA during its “War on terror”.</p>
<p> It would have been a marvellous platform, given the vast  US and worldwide audience,  to give thanks to our servicemen and women who have given their lives in these conflicts and who continue to serve.</p>
<p>If successive US administrations had stood by the UK to the same degree, maybe our   problems in Northern Ireland would have been alleviated sooner.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It felt like a party to which I was not invited: I couldn&#039;t watch, I am afraid.</description>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/01/21/great-day-on-penn-avenue-bad-day-at-guantanamo/#comment-31137</link>
		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree, however, the corruption of this excellent intellectual product of the Chicago political machine will be very sad to watch - indeed, hasn&#039;t it already started in Chicago with the Governor?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, however, the corruption of this excellent intellectual product of the Chicago political machine will be very sad to watch &#8211; indeed, hasn&#8217;t it already started in Chicago with the Governor?</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I second the note about Obama&#039;s stumbling over the oath coming only as a result of Chief Justice Roberts&#039; slip-up. Such an obvious clanger at the start of your post, John, might lead those less forgiving than yourself to conclude that your subsequent analysis of the Guantanamo situation isn&#039;t so well-informed, either. Surely you must be aware of the complexities in moving the Gitmo inmates to civilian trials, especially given the manner in which much &#039;evidence&#039; against them has been obtained?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I second the note about Obama&#8217;s stumbling over the oath coming only as a result of Chief Justice Roberts&#8217; slip-up. Such an obvious clanger at the start of your post, John, might lead those less forgiving than yourself to conclude that your subsequent analysis of the Guantanamo situation isn&#8217;t so well-informed, either. Surely you must be aware of the complexities in moving the Gitmo inmates to civilian trials, especially given the manner in which much &#8216;evidence&#8217; against them has been obtained?</p>
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		<title>By: Hot News and Buzz : Can Obama really deliver on his Guantánamo pledge?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hot News and Buzz : Can Obama really deliver on his Guantánamo pledge?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 12:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I felt let down not by the words, nor by the event, but by the actions. If he is serious about closing Guantánamo, why doesn&#8217;t he just announce a date or process for closure? Guantánamo became a symbol of a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Nick Rouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Rouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barack Obama did not stumble over the oath, Chief Justice John Roberts prompting him got it badly wrong, Obama paused to let him get it right. Pehaps we can see one of the reasons Obama 
voted against his appoinment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barack Obama did not stumble over the oath, Chief Justice John Roberts prompting him got it badly wrong, Obama paused to let him get it right. Pehaps we can see one of the reasons Obama<br />
voted against his appoinment.</p>
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		<title>By: Von Spreuth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Von Spreuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh get OVER it. He is a politician and will be JUST as bent, corrupt and as full of lies as ALL the others.

Von Brandenburg-Preußen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh get OVER it. He is a politician and will be JUST as bent, corrupt and as full of lies as ALL the others.</p>
<p>Von Brandenburg-Preußen.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give him a chance John! He&#039;s barely been in the job ten hours!</description>
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		<title>By: StevenL</title>
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		<dc:creator>StevenL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely no US court will accept any evidence &#039;obtained&#039; in gitmo, meaning they walk free on US soil if charged in the US.

Surely any country outside of the EU will refuse to take back any inmates, and if they can be persuaded will simply imprison them, perhaps in even worse conditions.

Repatriating the inmates in the USA is politically impossible, repatriating them to their own countries is politically dangerous.

No-one will want these suspected terrorists, well, anyone that does want them will probably just want them as a source of intelligence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely no US court will accept any evidence &#8216;obtained&#8217; in gitmo, meaning they walk free on US soil if charged in the US.</p>
<p>Surely any country outside of the EU will refuse to take back any inmates, and if they can be persuaded will simply imprison them, perhaps in even worse conditions.</p>
<p>Repatriating the inmates in the USA is politically impossible, repatriating them to their own countries is politically dangerous.</p>
<p>No-one will want these suspected terrorists, well, anyone that does want them will probably just want them as a source of intelligence.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart Fairney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stuart Fairney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said.  I could not bring myself to watch the charade (are you going to defend the second amendment Mr President?) but the substantive was pathetic indeed.

Had Obama been in charge pre-1776 the US would still be a British colony of course, because his anti-gun stance would have disarmed the minutemen.  

Guantanamo is either right or wrong; if it&#039;s right ~ continue, if it&#039;s wrong ~ close the place.  He&#039;s had long enough to decide.  To simply kick it into the long grass is hopeless.  Day 1, policy 1 ~ Dither.  

I was less worried about the lack of financial detail about more bailouts because frankly a &#039;do-nothing&#039; Obama maybe rather better than a &#039;borrow-more&#039; Obama.

The most serious mistake, having Hilary Clinton on board.  I would not have someone responsible for foreign relations who had to put it mildly &quot;extensive ties&quot; with foreign donors*.  It may create the impression of a conflict of interest.  Also I would like someone who knows whether or not they were shot at, in the Balkans, as that detail is rather important.  

(*Ed ~ this is not in doubt or contraversial, do a simply Google search, it is widely reported in the mainstream US media)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said.  I could not bring myself to watch the charade (are you going to defend the second amendment Mr President?) but the substantive was pathetic indeed.</p>
<p>Had Obama been in charge pre-1776 the US would still be a British colony of course, because his anti-gun stance would have disarmed the minutemen.  </p>
<p>Guantanamo is either right or wrong; if it&#8217;s right ~ continue, if it&#8217;s wrong ~ close the place.  He&#8217;s had long enough to decide.  To simply kick it into the long grass is hopeless.  Day 1, policy 1 ~ Dither.  </p>
<p>I was less worried about the lack of financial detail about more bailouts because frankly a &#8216;do-nothing&#8217; Obama maybe rather better than a &#8216;borrow-more&#8217; Obama.</p>
<p>The most serious mistake, having Hilary Clinton on board.  I would not have someone responsible for foreign relations who had to put it mildly &#8220;extensive ties&#8221; with foreign donors*.  It may create the impression of a conflict of interest.  Also I would like someone who knows whether or not they were shot at, in the Balkans, as that detail is rather important.  </p>
<p>(*Ed ~ this is not in doubt or contraversial, do a simply Google search, it is widely reported in the mainstream US media)</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 08:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I notice we dont hear so much about human rights from the other side of the pond now. Cant really say much considering they torture 14 year old boys and keep them locked up with no legal process. I dont understand how we think of extraditing people to that country!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I notice we dont hear so much about human rights from the other side of the pond now. Cant really say much considering they torture 14 year old boys and keep them locked up with no legal process. I dont understand how we think of extraditing people to that country!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Makara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Makara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 07:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rational behind the Bush administrations&#039; much publicized &#039;surge&#039; was to make the Iraqi&#039;s more dependent on a US presence and the act of withdrawing troops far more difficult. President Obama has talked about wanting a &#039;Rapid Strike Force&#039; in the region, and, that being the case it would not be logical for him to scale down the US presence in Iraq entirely. Nontheless, an expectant public do want to see an end to this foreign policy quagmire, which, in America&#039;s case, has now dragged on longer than the second world war. We can only wait and see what transpires, but already the new president is learning that promises are easily spoken but often difficult to fulfill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rational behind the Bush administrations&#8217; much publicized &#8217;surge&#8217; was to make the Iraqi&#8217;s more dependent on a US presence and the act of withdrawing troops far more difficult. President Obama has talked about wanting a &#8216;Rapid Strike Force&#8217; in the region, and, that being the case it would not be logical for him to scale down the US presence in Iraq entirely. Nontheless, an expectant public do want to see an end to this foreign policy quagmire, which, in America&#8217;s case, has now dragged on longer than the second world war. We can only wait and see what transpires, but already the new president is learning that promises are easily spoken but often difficult to fulfill.</p>
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