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	<title>Comments on: The Cambridge Union is proud of Margaret Thatcher</title>
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		<title>By: Callum Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/#comment-38199</link>
		<dc:creator>Callum Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 May 2009 10:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I know I&#039;ve been all over this but the CUS has footage of the debate he:

http://www.archive.org/details/cus_2009-05-07_debate_proud-of-thatcher</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I know I&#8217;ve been all over this but the CUS has footage of the debate he:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.archive.org/details/cus_2009-05-07_debate_proud-of-thatcher" rel="nofollow">http://www.archive.org/details/cus_2009-05-07_debate_proud-of-thatcher</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/#comment-37911</link>
		<dc:creator>Bazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 12:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s more likely they represent the next generation of bankers and money men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s more likely they represent the next generation of bankers and money men.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/#comment-37874</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:16:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, but unfortunately I highly doubt that the Cambridge Union Society are representative of Cambridge University students, let alone the &#039;next generation of students&#039; more generally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, but unfortunately I highly doubt that the Cambridge Union Society are representative of Cambridge University students, let alone the &#8216;next generation of students&#8217; more generally.</p>
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		<title>By: PJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>PJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 15:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on,

The Conservatives under Maggie believed in equality where opportunity was available to all and the most able could succeed regardless of how much their parents earned or who they were. 

Now look at Britain:

- An ever expanding and increasingly stifling quangocracy stuffed with unelected cronies.

- Ever more punitive taxes (see the last budget proposals) on people who want to save for their retirement. These have already effectively destroyed final salary pension schemes.

- Good education increasingly only available to those who can afford to pay for it, denying opportunity to clever children whose parents are not well off and stifling social mobility.

This situation cannot be good for the economy, it does nothing to encourage hard work and self sufficiency. It does what it was designed to do, keep the poor and low paid in a trap where they depend on state handouts and have little opportunity to escape.

Heaven knows how many years it will take to repair the damage done by Blair and Brown.

Thank goodness the next generation of students have seen through the socialist utopia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on,</p>
<p>The Conservatives under Maggie believed in equality where opportunity was available to all and the most able could succeed regardless of how much their parents earned or who they were. </p>
<p>Now look at Britain:</p>
<p>- An ever expanding and increasingly stifling quangocracy stuffed with unelected cronies.</p>
<p>- Ever more punitive taxes (see the last budget proposals) on people who want to save for their retirement. These have already effectively destroyed final salary pension schemes.</p>
<p>- Good education increasingly only available to those who can afford to pay for it, denying opportunity to clever children whose parents are not well off and stifling social mobility.</p>
<p>This situation cannot be good for the economy, it does nothing to encourage hard work and self sufficiency. It does what it was designed to do, keep the poor and low paid in a trap where they depend on state handouts and have little opportunity to escape.</p>
<p>Heaven knows how many years it will take to repair the damage done by Blair and Brown.</p>
<p>Thank goodness the next generation of students have seen through the socialist utopia.</p>
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		<title>By: gyges</title>
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		<dc:creator>gyges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 11:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that is worth drawing attention to ... according to Craig Murray&#039;s recent testimony: she refused to accept evidence from torture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that is worth drawing attention to &#8230; according to Craig Murray&#8217;s recent testimony: she refused to accept evidence from torture.</p>
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		<title>By: Brigham</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/#comment-37822</link>
		<dc:creator>Brigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 08:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Maggie was in power was the only time I felt proud to be British since Churchill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Maggie was in power was the only time I felt proud to be British since Churchill.</p>
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		<title>By: Bazman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bazman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 08:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How you view Thatcher largely depends on where you live, how old you are and what you do, or for many did. For a vast number and I would say the majority she was a blight on their lives. A legacy that in the long term Labour have compounded. Communism does work, but only for the few. Communism is alive and well in Britain. An elite few lead by MP&#039;s on a gravy train outraged by the rules and claiming to the max whilst doing everything to hide the facts. Supported by people who are in turn supported by &#039;The Party&#039; What I would call the middle class social security system. Britain is one of the richest countries in the world and this is not reflected in the lives of most people. Well done comrade Thatcher and her understudy Blair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How you view Thatcher largely depends on where you live, how old you are and what you do, or for many did. For a vast number and I would say the majority she was a blight on their lives. A legacy that in the long term Labour have compounded. Communism does work, but only for the few. Communism is alive and well in Britain. An elite few lead by MP&#8217;s on a gravy train outraged by the rules and claiming to the max whilst doing everything to hide the facts. Supported by people who are in turn supported by &#8216;The Party&#8217; What I would call the middle class social security system. Britain is one of the richest countries in the world and this is not reflected in the lives of most people. Well done comrade Thatcher and her understudy Blair.</p>
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		<title>By: DennisA</title>
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		<dc:creator>DennisA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a pity that Margaret Thatcher helped to start the global warming bandwagon, which the current opposition are still signed up to. Both she and Scargill jointly destroyed the coal industry and pushed us into a position of importing a greater proportion of our energy needs and a reliance on imported gas, 

We are only now realising we still need the coal that sits beneath this once pleasant but now &quot;green&quot; land.

Sadly, the legal authority of Parliament has mostly been handed to the EU, from Maastricht onwards.

I always disagreed that a public asset, council houses, should be flogged off cheap, to be sold on at a profit at everyone else&#039;s expense. If there were still the council house stock, maybe the sub prime market wouldn&#039;t have had such a lot of subscribers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a pity that Margaret Thatcher helped to start the global warming bandwagon, which the current opposition are still signed up to. Both she and Scargill jointly destroyed the coal industry and pushed us into a position of importing a greater proportion of our energy needs and a reliance on imported gas, </p>
<p>We are only now realising we still need the coal that sits beneath this once pleasant but now &#8220;green&#8221; land.</p>
<p>Sadly, the legal authority of Parliament has mostly been handed to the EU, from Maastricht onwards.</p>
<p>I always disagreed that a public asset, council houses, should be flogged off cheap, to be sold on at a profit at everyone else&#8217;s expense. If there were still the council house stock, maybe the sub prime market wouldn&#8217;t have had such a lot of subscribers.</p>
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		<title>By: Monoi</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/#comment-37792</link>
		<dc:creator>Monoi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a foreigner who came to this country in the late 70s and early 80s on language exchanges, I can tell you that for us this was a backwards country economically, if not culturally.

I moved permanently here in 1986 (it cost £99 and took 3 months to get a phone line connected at the time, funny how socialists forget that!)), and the transformation has been remarkable.

I am French.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a foreigner who came to this country in the late 70s and early 80s on language exchanges, I can tell you that for us this was a backwards country economically, if not culturally.</p>
<p>I moved permanently here in 1986 (it cost £99 and took 3 months to get a phone line connected at the time, funny how socialists forget that!)), and the transformation has been remarkable.</p>
<p>I am French.</p>
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		<title>By: alan jutson</title>
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		<dc:creator>alan jutson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike
You do not have to be a Member of the Cambridge Union to come up with the same general thoughts.

Now you know why Labour is keen on lowering the voting age to 16. !!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike<br />
You do not have to be a Member of the Cambridge Union to come up with the same general thoughts.</p>
<p>Now you know why Labour is keen on lowering the voting age to 16. !!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 13:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well done John.
you are invaluable</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well done John.<br />
you are invaluable</p>
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		<title>By: The Cambridge Union is Proud of Margaret Thatcher &#171; Cambridge University Conservative Association</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/#comment-37786</link>
		<dc:creator>The Cambridge Union is Proud of Margaret Thatcher &#171; Cambridge University Conservative Association</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 11:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Excerpt from John Redwood&#8217;s Blog:  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Excerpt from John Redwood&#8217;s Blog:  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Callum Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.johnredwoodsdiary.com/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/#comment-37785</link>
		<dc:creator>Callum Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 11:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again, you were brilliant!

I covered your blog on the Cambridge Conservatives website with a few [rather badly taken] photos:

http://www.cuca.org.uk/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/

reply: many thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again, you were brilliant!</p>
<p>I covered your blog on the Cambridge Conservatives website with a few [rather badly taken] photos:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cuca.org.uk/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/" rel="nofollow">http://www.cuca.org.uk/2009/05/08/the-cambridge-union-is-proud-of-margaret-thatcher/</a></p>
<p>reply: many thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: mikestallard</title>
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		<dc:creator>mikestallard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 11:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a life long member of the Cambridge Union (with the tie to prove it) I can say, with confidence:
Socialist at Twenty; Conservative at thirty.
And well done for winning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a life long member of the Cambridge Union (with the tie to prove it) I can say, with confidence:<br />
Socialist at Twenty; Conservative at thirty.<br />
And well done for winning!</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Norfolk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny Norfolk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 10:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then the some  Tory party MPs stabbed her in the back.

They will never be forgiven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then the some  Tory party MPs stabbed her in the back.</p>
<p>They will never be forgiven.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Tomkinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Tomkinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 10:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only she were in charge today!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only she were in charge today!</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 10:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brown has broken the law

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/WorkingAndPayingTax/DG_10027015

This webpage says if you pay someone more than £110 a week then you must register as an employer. It was a law he brought in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brown has broken the law</p>
<p><a href="http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/WorkingAndPayingTax/DG_10027015" rel="nofollow">http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Taxes/WorkingAndPayingTax/DG_10027015</a></p>
<p>This webpage says if you pay someone more than £110 a week then you must register as an employer. It was a law he brought in.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What did Thatcher do about red-tape? 

Gordon introduced rules so that nannies and housekeepers are employees, and their employers must pay NI. Brown&#039;s excuse for paying his brother the money is that &quot;it simplified NI payments&quot;.

So what Gordon is saying is that the large amount of red-tape that he is burdening business with should be avoided. Why can&#039;t Gordon employ the cleaner directly - like every body else. Why can&#039;t Gordon fill in all the NI forms and make the employer and employee NI payments - like everybody else. 

Is red-tape only for the little people? 

With business dogged by red-tape costing billions a year. Gordon avoids it. That in my mind is a resigning matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did Thatcher do about red-tape? </p>
<p>Gordon introduced rules so that nannies and housekeepers are employees, and their employers must pay NI. Brown&#8217;s excuse for paying his brother the money is that &#8220;it simplified NI payments&#8221;.</p>
<p>So what Gordon is saying is that the large amount of red-tape that he is burdening business with should be avoided. Why can&#8217;t Gordon employ the cleaner directly &#8211; like every body else. Why can&#8217;t Gordon fill in all the NI forms and make the employer and employee NI payments &#8211; like everybody else. </p>
<p>Is red-tape only for the little people? </p>
<p>With business dogged by red-tape costing billions a year. Gordon avoids it. That in my mind is a resigning matter.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a first-year student at Cambridge and member of the Union, I was at the debate last night and would just like to congratulate you on the strength of your speech and the victory for the Ayes. I was quite surprised that the motion carried, but also very pleased that it did. Well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a first-year student at Cambridge and member of the Union, I was at the debate last night and would just like to congratulate you on the strength of your speech and the victory for the Ayes. I was quite surprised that the motion carried, but also very pleased that it did. Well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Demetrius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demetrius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 09:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who was in the foothills of managing things at the time, it is difficult to describe what a shambles it all was by 1979.  Given the number of issues where there were no &quot;right&quot; decisions, only to hope for the least worst, Mrs. Thatcher made a better job of it than expected.  Of course it was never going to be 100%, of course events forced some issues, she never &quot;wanted&quot; the Falklands, she was just landed with a very nasty business to deal with.  Later on she did not really grasp how quickly things had begun to move.  With the poll tax, it should have been carefully phased with Education taken out of it.  And she had a lot of stroppy macho types in her own party. As someone who is about as cynical as you get, my view is that we should all grow up when discussing her period of office, it was a period of very rapid change and great dangers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who was in the foothills of managing things at the time, it is difficult to describe what a shambles it all was by 1979.  Given the number of issues where there were no &#8220;right&#8221; decisions, only to hope for the least worst, Mrs. Thatcher made a better job of it than expected.  Of course it was never going to be 100%, of course events forced some issues, she never &#8220;wanted&#8221; the Falklands, she was just landed with a very nasty business to deal with.  Later on she did not really grasp how quickly things had begun to move.  With the poll tax, it should have been carefully phased with Education taken out of it.  And she had a lot of stroppy macho types in her own party. As someone who is about as cynical as you get, my view is that we should all grow up when discussing her period of office, it was a period of very rapid change and great dangers.</p>
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