Dave could walk the next election if he would show some steel and go for a referendum.

Do you really buy his current approach John?

Might I remind them that our membership was procured by politicians of both major parties signing treaties which were clearly contrary to the English Constitution, since they ceded powers to foreign authory. Their actions were treasonous and therefore, unlawful.

In consequence, any subsequent law was also unlawful, since law cannot rest on an unlawful act.

No need to worry about whether the EU will let us leave. We have no obligation to follow EU law, nor any English law which is subsequent to treason.

Law is only effective if it is accepted. That’s why we have juries in criminal cases, who can reject a judge’s directions if they see that these are based on unfair legislation.

Don’t panic, Mr. Mainwaring! Just take no notice of unlawful commands.

Reply: It was also secured by the British public voting Yes by a large margin in the one referendum we did manage to obtain

Oh Dear.

But is it really any more than we should have expected.

Yes its all so bloody depressing.

Who would have beleived that we would have gone this far backwards, since Mrs T thumped a few with her handbag and stood up for the UK, Not that even she with her determination could stop EU growth and influence marching ever onwards. But at least we got some money back.

Like you I do not think DC will even try and negotiate hard, they will just ignor him until he goes away, and he knows it.

I am a democrat, is there a democratic solution, even a democratic option here?

I do not know if she was ever a “Greenham Common Woman” however.

Her CV makes for interesting reading and you can see for yourself just how suited she is to this job.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baroness_Ashton_of_Upholland

This is Taliban geurilla tactics turned against them with the high-tech resources which are our strength. The engage in geurilla attacks striking from cover & we strike from the sky. They use remote controlled bombs run by mobile phone & we use remote controlled aircraft. Once again we see that war is a matter of using the highest available technology, something on which we awesomely out match them. The alternative of putting the maximum number of boots on the ground & taking casualties, which is where the bulk of effort is going, is something on which we are outmatched.

We do not need to occupy every village to deny it to the Taliban, let alone the late Osama & we should not. We shouldc fight to our strengths.

Who are these two people? Ok, so the Belgian has held elected office. But Baroness Ashton is a Nu Labour apparatchik who has never held elected office in her life.

What the hell does she know about diplomacy? How many languages does she speak?

The reality of Europe is really very simple. The majority of European economies are drowning under the ever increasing weight of the public sector.

The private wealth creating part of society is being asphyxiated by the pen pushing horde and their gilt plated pensions. Greece, Italy, Spain, France, Portugal and the UK are being overwhelmed by their bureaucracies.

And then we have the additional unelected bureaucracy of Brussels. I see that Mrs Ashton will have a modest little team of 5000 to support her. More of our hard earned cash p****d against the wall.

The whole Europe project is a financial disaster. And who listens to what Europe says?

We don’t need this project. We should get the hell out of Europe and run our own show. Let me say I am not anti European. I live in Spain and have lived in France. I speak four languages. But I’m a pragmatist. I see the reality of the Brussels gravy train. If Europe is so important, why have our representatives elected two total non-entities?

I think the answer to that is simple and revealing. Blair would have outshone Sarkozy and Merkel. France and Germany were worried they would lose their overarching influence within the corridors of power. How pathetic that Sarkozy and Merkel have such brittle egos.

The stitch-up arranged during yet another tax payer funded dinner allows Sarkozy and Merkey to rule supreme. The rest of the world yawns and the European taxpayer picks up the tab for another army of bureaucrats.

The first thing Mr Cameron should do on gaining power is to call a referendum on Europe. The question is simple. Do we stay or do we go!

I have read elsewhere, that Mr Rompuy recently gave a speech to the Bilderberg group and said the EU needed to raise more taxes to pay for the changes called for in the Lisbon Treaty such as the EU’s new Foreign Service. That’s all we need!

No one really believes that Cameron will succeed in repatriating powers and few believe he will try very hard. If he were determined about it he would offer a referendum on the lines of “Should the government use every available means to regain the powers passed the the European Union by means of the Lisbon Treaty without the referendum previoualy promised to the British people”. (Long winded, but there it is).

That would demonstrate to the electorate and to the EU that he was willing to play hard ball. Equally importantly, it would give him a democratic mandate from many more people than are likely to vote Conservative at the next election, even on the most optimistic forecast.

The Conservatives have a major credibility gap here, and many votes are going to slip through it.