Every vote for UKIP is basically a vote for Labour. If you want Eurosceptics then vote Tory. The intake of new MPs next year will be profoundly Eurosceptic. The more the better.

The EU is firmly anti-democratic and has been built by the political elite no matter what the people want or think. The political elite think it is cementing peace within Europe where they are actually sowing the seeds of war.

You really are incredibly arrogant and stupid. Go ahead (take advantage of my rudeness) vote UKIP, but do not come crying to me if we still have a labour govt. Of course its me and people like me you rely on to stop that happening, whilst you go on and feed and vent your prejudice.

Suppose we had a 2 party system as in the USA? Both Labour and Tories would be different, even bigger, coalitions. How would you cope with that?
Democracy is not about everybody else doing what you want (unless your name is Gordon Brown of course). What don’t you want to happen? If its the re-election of Brown Labour and more EU sycophancy then, wel … you choice is clear.

I am not a member of the Tory party, but that is open to us all if we want more direct influence.

I would be happy to see us out of or have a more distant relationship with the EU. No problems.
But the notion that we can ignore the EU and can blissfully run our affairs in sweet isolation is baloney – as is the notion that we cannot govern ourselves if we want to.
We can do what we want – we are not in the Euro – and the EU will struggle to stop us.
Right now our bureaucrats are simply using the EU to aggrandise power and their prejudices. Cameron wants a more distant relationship, he/the Tories want to repatriate powers. Lets judge him on that.

But we face a bigger danger from our own bureaucrats and solving that would get my priority.

But James – you give the game away saying you are an English nationalist. If Scotland want independence then thats their problem (they will never vote that way of course which is why Salmond constantly niggles the English) – England will survive, but I am British and want to continue to be British. The Scots are nice people – I go there quite a bit, its sad that labour have ruined the country. But for me ‘Britain is Great’

If negotiating from strength won’t in your view succeed, how can negotiating from recumbent impotence be any more successful?

There aren’t that many votes for the Tories in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland either, but that does not make the Conservatives English Nationalist (more’s the pity in my view) despite the claims of their opponents. UKIP with limited, but not zero, support outside England, remains determindly a UK party, just like the Conservatives.

To hell with all the doomsayers who say the country would sink without the EU. What utter rubbish.

Withdrawing from the EU would give the country the shake-up it so badly needs. It is only self interested politicians and businessmen who tell us we would drown without the EU.

It’s time for the UK to free itself from the shackles of this corrupt and expensive club. Let’s stand on our own two feet. The appointment of two non-entities last week tells us all we need to know about this useless institution. It’s too big, too costly and too interfering.

Time to say ciao, adios, adieu…..

I would like to be out of the EU but there are believe it or not other fish to fry meantime and getting bogged down with the EU is not going to hepl anybody – and the majority of the voters will be easily persuaded by that line by labour if we give them a chance.
Our relationship with the EU will take its natural course – assuming that the sceptics use their brains.

One very big fish to fry of course is getting elected in the first place – then we will have the luxury of worrying how to deal with the EU at our leisure.

There are precisely no votes for UKIP in NI, Wales or Scotland.
UKIP have one USP – they can ensure the re-election of Gordon Brown.

Wonderful, so instead of three pro Euro currency parties, we now have the choice of three pro EU parties.

Plus ça change, plus c’est la même chose.

This is a non-party-political version of the “Leftward ratchet” in other sorts of policies. No effort is made to unratchet such changes.

What has gone before is patently the fault of Labour but a general election draws a line under that. I am therefore less interested in attribution of blame for the situation but very interested in what positive action the Tories intend to reverse the position, not merely to cope with status quo.

Awaited with interest but not a great deal of hope.

If Conservative policy on EU is essentially the same as the other main parties then, in the words of the jokey alternative SAS motto:
“Who Cares Who Wins”.

If you are serious about democratic self-government you should put “electoral reform” at the top of your list.

It took me around three years to extract a response from Janet Dean (Labour), the current MP, she is of course very pro EU.

I am still angry about the way Heath took us into the Common Market and others since have used every device to get us further into the EC and EU and ratification of the Constitution/Lisbon Treaty..

Parliament will soon be little more than a Shire County Council in a Country called Europe and I am resolutely against it.

As a point of information I am disenfranchised in Ipswich. I run and am taxed on a business based in Ipswich, but I have no vote on who represent Ipswich since I live in a Suffolk constituency outside the Town.

Surely we could “do a Germany” by giving our courts over-riding powers over the place-men in the ECHR?

You can argue about the causes for Hitler’s failure to follow up on Dunkirk; German General Staff unable to think maritime, Hitler’s strategic failure and thoughts on negotiation plus the planned Barbarrosa operation for which he needed troops, Goerings offer that he could bomb us into surrender with flawed tactics, and so on. But fundamentally the UK democratic system survived fierce internal debate and terrifying external threats and provided a generally unanimous effort to defeat tyranny. Churchill, despite his near dictatorship powers still supported democracy and went to the House twice a week (unlike that clown Blair who only went once a week) for PM’s QT. He also appointed and listened to good advisers, especially his military advisers.

Now, just because there’s a Tunnel some would have us think that we are ‘part of Europe’. Nope, sorry sunshine, but nope. The view from this end of the Tunnel is that all it means is that we can trade more easily with you. You can buy our stuff and we can buy your stuff. It does not mean that we can be more ‘connected’ with you politically.